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Date:      Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:59:27 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: More of my totally ineffective PR efforts in action. :-) 
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.32.19990414114712.00cda740@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <10906.924111753@zippy.cdrom.com>
References:  <Your message of "Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:50:27 MDT." <4.2.0.32.19990414104518.00b6ac10@localhost>

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At 10:42 AM 4/14/99 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

>I can clearly see that there's just no pleasing you, Brett, 

Not so at all. But the current approach to PR is undermining
FreeBSD rather than helping it, and this is certainly not
pleasing.

>You seem to
>feel that throwing rocks is an effective approach to getting people to
>follow you and, frankly, that just makes no sense at all.  

When things are going badly, it's important to point that out.
In this case, Jordan, I'm afraid that you are playing the part of the
Emperor with no clothes -- and counting on your followers to join
you in denial. While there may be some resistance when
it is pointed out that something is amiss, it is nonetheless very
important that someone do so.

>And whatever happened to stomping off in a huff?  This has got to be
>the longest "I'm leaving!  I'm slamming the door!  I'm getting my car
>keys out of my pocket!"  divorce in history. :)

I'm sure that's what you'd love, Jordan: if no one who disapproved
of what you did ever said anything.

As it happens, I have already left the FreeBSD advocacy mailing list 
because there is clearly no point in attempting to do effective advocacy 
with you at the helm. You are undermining and sabotaging all such efforts.
In particular, by voicing support for Microsoft's domination of the
desktop and discouraging differentiation of FreeBSD from Linux, you are 
assuring FreeBSD's slide into obscurity.

While I've given up on the advocacy list, I do administer several FreeBSD 
systems, and must remain subscribed to other lists in order to do this. When 
I see a particularly egregious example of The Wrong Thing, I may
still speak up, though -- again -- I know that you'd rather I didn't point
out your role as Emperor Nero, fiddling while FreeBSD goes down the tubes.

Fortunately, there is a nascent but growing consensus that something needs 
to be done, and it pays to support it. 

--Brett Glass



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