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Date:      Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:01:47 -0700
From:      "David Brodbeck" <gull@gull.us>
To:        "Ryan Coleman" <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: UPS question
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On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
>> On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>> He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on a
>>> 1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
>>> battery.
>>> If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave the
>>> modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 hours.
>>
>> A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought to
>> how
>> you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
>> minutes
>> but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind of
>> race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have begun a
>> shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.
>
> Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can support
> the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the support
> because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my current web
> server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those power
> fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but hate
> them for the toll they take on my servers.

Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:

1. Power goes out.
2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.

The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
until someone physically goes and pushes the button.





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