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Date:      Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:54:19 -0500
From:      Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz>
To:        David Brodbeck <gull@gull.us>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: UPS question
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On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:01 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:

> On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>>> He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on =
a
>>>> 1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
>>>> battery.
>>>> If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave =
the
>>>> modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 =
hours.
>>>=20
>>> A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought =
to
>>> how
>>> you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
>>> minutes
>>> but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind =
of
>>> race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have =
begun a
>>> shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.
>>=20
>> Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can =
support
>> the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the =
support
>> because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my =
current web
>> server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those =
power
>> fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but =
hate
>> them for the toll they take on my servers.
>=20
> Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
> system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:
>=20
> 1. Power goes out.
> 2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
> 3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.
>=20
> The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
> until someone physically goes and pushes the button.

Good points. I just want to make sure it has a safe shutdown (the usual =
reason for a UPS) but it will be set with a BIOS turn on time if it is =
not on. This is for a mirrored archive that updates overnight. If it is =
in the middle of the process it will kill and shut off.

Most power outages in my area are 1) during the hottest days of the =
summer - like today and 2) last less than 60 seconds. It's biggest draw =
is to give it a steady stream of power.

--
Ryan=



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