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Date:      Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:11:53 +0100
From:      Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org>
To:        Peter Toth <peter.toth198@gmail.com>, jail@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: preferred jail management tool
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On 27.01.15 21:01, Peter Toth wrote:

> The most important part is jail(8) and properties can be passed to jail(8)
> very easily.
> 
> This is the very reason I stopped relying on any rc.d/jai or jail.conf for
> iocage. It is much easier/simpler to add/modify features when dealing with
> jail(8) directly.

This means that you need to keep your config in yet another place. I
think it's much nicer to point a user to a defined location where he
would find everything that magically creates those jail containers at
system startup.

I think that rc.d/jail and its config should provide all the means
necessary to describe the state of the system's jails after booting up.
If it doesn't, the tool is useless. Could you please explain what
features are missing in jail.conf for you to not use it? Maybe we can
layout a path to a better config abstraction.

  erdgeist



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