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Date:      Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:51:59 +1000
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        CHARL <croftonc@PARACHUTE.WCAPE.GOV.ZA>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: First Documentation
Message-ID:  <19981006185159.56728@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <199810060700.JAA03450@wcpes.x-link.ml.org>; from CHARL on Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 08:47:16AM %2B0200
References:  <199810060700.JAA03450@wcpes.x-link.ml.org>

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On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 08:47:16AM +0200, CHARL wrote:
> Wow......
> 
> What a great reply of commands. Thanks all for your input and  to Sue a 
> great big thank you for the help that you've been giving.I am looking forward 
> to your new project fo rnewbies. I am currently busy with all these new stuff 
> now, trying the commands and trying to understand them.So hold thumbs 
> people.

Great :-) One thing I've always lacked most has been ideas about what
is safe to try next (without being thrown into the hard stuff). Some of
the suggested commands are too advanced or specialised to bother with
in the beginning, but the majority of the suggestions, those that make
immediate sense to you, will probably be useful.

> Just one question : Someone mentioned to me that I must use 'screen' for 
> multitasking <----- is this the same as the vitual console or am I missing 
> something here?

Perhaps if I explain how I use it. For years I dialled into a shell
account from my DOS box. Of course, I could only run one program at a
time. That wasn't a big problem, because I only knew half a dozen unix
commands anyway. They seemed enough at the time.

When I was reading mail on the remote unix machine, and wanted to
'talk' to someone else on the system, I had to get out of pine first.
Suspending was an option that I found too tricky to bother with.
Then I discovered screen.

I'd dial in, log in, and then run screen as soon as I got the prompt.
At any time later on I could press a key to create another "screen". In
effect it was like using a few virtual consoles on a local FreeBSD
machine (alt-F2 etc), but doing it on the remote machine. These screens
don't appear as windows, just one at a time, but it's quick and easy to
flip between them. I could have mail in one, news in another, talk in a
third, and a fourth just sitting at a prompt. All in a single login
from my 286 with a 2400bps modem :-)

If you're sitting at the unix machine, rather than dialling into one,
you don't have much use for screen. There's many more convenient ways
to multitask locally.

These days I use screen locally before telnetting into a linux system
where it expects me to have vt100 rather than cons25. Screen gives me a
quick temporary vt100 on my end, matching the remote end, and makes all
the arrows and function keys work on the Linux full screen programs.


-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-


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