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Date:      Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:10:50 -0800
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        Malcolm Kay <malcolm.kay@internode.on.net>
Cc:        Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT.
Message-ID:  <20071209101050.GD4442@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <200712091356.55929.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net>
References:  <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <200712091356.55929.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net>

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On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 01:56:55PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:33 am, Gary Kline wrote:
> > 
> > 	Folks,
> > 
> > 	IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto
> > 	on  my bsd virtual site.   Make this domain more useful.
> > 	The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things
> > 	CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce.
> > 
> I don't use k3b so what capability it has is not known to me.

	So far I've only used it to burn CD's; beyond that ... .
> 
> > 	That said,  first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please
> > 	post it; or send it privately.  I just bought some "Memorex 
> > 	DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD.
> > 	On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes
> > 	in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on.
> 
> The nominal capacity of the single sided DVD is 120 minutes but some 32 
> different definitions are recognised including:
> EP -- extended play - 360 minutes
> LP -- long play - 240 minutes
> SP -- standard play - 120 minutes
> FINE - 60 minutes
> But how are you getting your source? What definition is it in?

The back of the disc says: "Aprox 117 minutes"; so evidently it was
mastered in SP.    If there are *32* defs, man, I miht as well throw in
the towel and go back to my Shostakovich.  (Unless these definitions are 
largely air (==  "PR stuff, aka hype).

> 
> > 	Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing
> > 	this professioally recorded disc?  
> 
> As I've already said I know little of k3b but you'll probably need some sort
> of authoring/editing software and possibly another package for compression/definition 
> conversion.
> 
> > 	Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat  
> > 	I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD?
> 
> Yes, it means that the total disk can be rewritten -- but the ability to
> edit without rewriting all can be quite limited. And RW disks can have a 
> rather limited rewrite life -- some 10s of times.


	Thanks for your datapoints.   The URL that Predrag posted ought 
	to give more pointers.


	gary
> > 
> > 	gary
> > 
> > 	PS:  I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff
> > 	     since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-)
> 
> EP or LP modes with 6 or 4 hour capacity would probably both cater for a 
> better quality than your analogue cassettes.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Malcolm

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