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Date:      Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:10:13 +1100
From:      Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org>
To:        JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: rc.order wrong (ipfw) 
Message-ID:  <200703171210.l2HCAD63046801@drugs.dv.isc.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:57:18 -0300." <200703170757.18939.joao@matik.com.br> 

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> On Saturday 17 March 2007 03:58, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> > > > nothing goes to this machine because by default everything is blocked
> > > > until
> > > >
> > > > you permit it
> > >
> > > You're absolutely correct, however your original post seems to have
> > > taken many of us by surprise, causing some of us (at least me!) to
> > > assume that you've changed the default method to allow.  I'm obviously
> > > misunderstanding, so I apologise for that, but I hope you can see the
> > > reasoning behind my comments with what I knew at the time.  :)
> >
> > 	ipfw needs to be before networking or router discovery
> > 	fails for IPv6.
> >
> > 	http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=conf/108589
> >
> 
> 
> as default any network connection will fail so long as you do not permit it
> 
> If rtsol fails or is called to early it is an rtsol problem and not an ipfw 
> problem I guess
> 
> as another example, what if you set a ifconfig_nic0="inet hostname" instead o
> f 
> IP address and this hostname is not in /etc/hosts and ipfw is still not up 
> and named is far away to start, then, according to your idea we need to start

	If you do that then the address must be in /etc/hosts.
  
> named and ipfw before netif?

	ip6fw is before networking. ipfw is supposed to be taking
	over from ip6fw.  ipfw and ip6wf should be started at a
	similar time.

	rtsol is approximately the equivalent to DHCP.  The machine is
	requesting a address from the network.  It doesn't matter if
	it is a router or a DHCP server that is suppling the address.

	DHCP only works because it bypasses the firefall.

	Mark
 
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