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Date:      Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:10:26 -0400
From:      "Person, Roderick" <personrp@ccbh.com>
To:        'Vivek Khera' <khera@kcilink.com>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: opera & zombie processes
Message-ID:  <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A66840A@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu>

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If this is the cause of the problem with opera is there something else in
conjuction that causes this.
It other words linux emulation with and  I have been using Opera for at
least 6 months and I have noticed this problem at all. I'm not using the
port but the tar from opera.com.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
personrp@ccbh.com
http://www.ccbh.com

"Fascism is coming back, baby!"
	- Kevin Bacon - JFK




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivek Khera [mailto:khera@kcilink.com]
> Sent: June 19, 2001 2:58 PM
> To: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: opera & zombie processes
> 
> 
> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
> that has been posted to ml.freebsd.questions as well.
> 
> >>>>> "MB" == Marco Beishuizen <mbeis@planet.nl> writes:
> 
> MB> I have a question about Opera 5.0 under FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. When
> MB> I'm browsing with Opera a lot of zombie processes are
> MB> created. This goes on until the maximum number of processes are
> MB> reached. After that no process can be started. I found
> 
> I had a similar issue with Lyris running under Linux emulation (until
> they came up with a FreeBSD native version).  
> 
> What was happening was that Lyris was creating and destroying dozens
> of threads.  Under linux emulation, these are kernel threads, and
> treated as processes by the kernel.  However, the linux apps don't see
> fit to reap these processes, as linux does it automagically.  
> 
> The only real fix is to make the app reap the zombies periodically, or
> convince opera to come out with a fbsd native version.
> -- 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Vivek Khera, Ph.D.                Khera Communications, Inc.
> Internet: khera@kciLink.com       Rockville, MD       +1-240-453-8497
> AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera   http://www.khera.org/~vivek/
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If this is the cause of the problem with opera is =
there something else in conjuction that causes this.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>It other words linux emulation with and&nbsp; I have =
been using Opera for at least 6 months and I have noticed this problem =
at all. I'm not using the port but the tar from opera.com.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Roderick P. Person</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Programmer II</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>personrp@ccbh.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://www.ccbh.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.ccbh.com</A></FONT>;
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;Fascism is coming back, baby!&quot;</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>- Kevin =
Bacon - JFK</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Vivek Khera [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:khera@kcilink.com">mailto:khera@kcilink.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: June 19, 2001 2:58 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: questions@freebsd.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: opera &amp; zombie =
processes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The following message is a courtesy copy of an =
article</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; that has been posted to ml.freebsd.questions as =
well.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;MB&quot; =3D=3D =
Marco Beishuizen &lt;mbeis@planet.nl&gt; writes:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; MB&gt; I have a question about Opera 5.0 under =
FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. When</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; MB&gt; I'm browsing with Opera a lot of zombie =
processes are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; MB&gt; created. This goes on until the maximum =
number of processes are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; MB&gt; reached. After that no process can be =
started. I found</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I had a similar issue with Lyris running under =
Linux emulation (until</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; they came up with a FreeBSD native =
version).&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; What was happening was that Lyris was creating =
and destroying dozens</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; of threads.&nbsp; Under linux emulation, these =
are kernel threads, and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; treated as processes by the kernel.&nbsp; =
However, the linux apps don't see</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; fit to reap these processes, as linux does it =
automagically.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The only real fix is to make the app reap the =
zombies periodically, or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; convince opera to come out with a fbsd native =
version.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -- </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Vivek Khera, =
Ph.D.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Khera Communications, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Internet: =
khera@kciLink.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rockville, =
MD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +1-240-453-8497</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera&nbsp;&nbsp; <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.khera.org/~vivek/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.khera.org/~vivek/</A></FONT>;
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