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Date:      Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:40:57 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        Chip <chip@wiegand.org>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: replacing a cisco router with a fbsd box
Message-ID:  <20010902123707.Y68847-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <009f01c1339d$941264c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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I believe the NAT bug you're referring to has been fixed.  However, if you
send me some details, I'd be happy to verify for you.

Yes, FreeBSD's NAT isn't as feature-rich as Cisco's, but the libalias
stuff is easy to add protocol support to.  I just added TFTP to the tree,
and internal to Cisco, I've added another protocol for IP telephony.

As for the crash/hang.  Yeah, if it hangs, you're screwed.  It's hard to
troubleshoot those kind of things if you can't produce any kind of error
messages.  In those cases, obtaining information regularly like show proc,
show proc cpu, show buff, and show log can help.

Joe

On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe Clarke
> >
> >I realize I'm coming in a bit late on this, but I work for Cisco TAC, and
> >can say that with the recent Code Red thing, our NAT has seen a lot of
> >work.  There have been bugs filed to be sure.
>
> I hope that you fix the one where the Cisco NAT doesen't tear down the
> address map as soon as the connection is closed.  I saw that one on a 1005
> running early 12.0 code when someone asked us why they could Telnet into a
> JetDirect card from the Internet that in reality had a private network number.
> Turned out they were telnetting into the overload number on a nat pool on the
> 1005.  I never did get around to writing that one up because I figured it was
> an
> obvious hole that would be caught, but if your interested I'll dig up the
> particulars.
>
>   Offloading NAT from a
> >router with a small amount of RAM will improve packet flow to be sure.  In
> >fact, if you're experiencing lock-ups, I'd try that.  It may help you
> >isolate the problem.  FreeBSD's NAT is pretty good for most standard
> >protocols.  I've found it's relatively easy to add support to.
> >
>
> But it doesen't so the DNS trick that you guys do which is very useful. :-(
>
> >Also, if you do find yourself having to reload, see if you're getting any
> >tracebacks.  Do a show ver or show stack, and see what you can see.  Those
> >memory addresses can be useful for tracking down bugs.
> >
>
> He was saying that when the router got hosed that they had to power-cycle
> which I take it to mean the device froze.  It sounds suspiciously like flakey
> hardware to me.  Maybe someone upgraded the ram with some random PC memory
> they had lying around?
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
>
>
>
>


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