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Date:      Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:06:29 +1000
From:      Danny <dannyh@idx.com.au>
To:        Kristoph Yates <kyates@wspice.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!?
Message-ID:  <00042713071401.00383@freebsd.freebsd.org>
References:  <3905F045.9060804@wspice.com>

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How can mannually collecting the dependicies for RPMs be any better than ports
do ing it automatically for you. without user intervention.

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Kristoph Yates wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> That is my question.  It seems the idea behind ports is trapped in the 
> 70's.  They hardly work and many times get errors about "file not found" 
> or something equally annoying.. so I have to go in and screw with it "by 
> hand" which is no problem for me.. but the newbies are another story.
> 
> Once I ran make lynx and it said I had to have X11 installed.  What a 
> crock.. another fine example is openssl ...  It wants the useless RSAREF 
> crap.  What a crock!  What does Satoshi Asami have to say about the 
> disorganization of the ports collection?  When will FreeBSD come up with 
> something more reliable?  Yes, I cvsup'd the latest ports as of about a 
> week ago.
> 
> The only reason I would like to see ports be more reliable is because I 
> have lots-o-people that want to run *nix.. so I recommend to them 
> FreeBSD.  If ports were more reliable, I would spend less time on the 
> phone/net helping people install stuff on their FreeBSD boxes.   So far, 
> the easiest solution is to tell them to try Linux.  rpm --install 
> blahblahblah seems to work better for newbies than depending on the 
> ports and these folks are pretty brainless when it comes to installing  
> things "by hand ", the "old fashioned way".
> 
> Any info would be appreciated.  Please respond via email as I am not 
> subscribed to the list.
> thanks,
> kyates@wspice.com
> 
> 
> 
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