Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:17:13 +0400 From: N V <VaNs9@yandex.ru> To: O. Hartmann <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Cc: Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server Message-ID: <33991324473433@web123.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <4EF12815.2090805@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4EE2AE64.9060802@m5p.com> <4EE88343.2050302@m5p.com> <CAFHbX1%2B5PttyZuNnYot8emTn_AWkABdJCvnpo5rcRxVXj0ypJA@mail.gmail.com> <4EE933C6.4020209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <CAPjTQNEJDE17TLH-mDrG_-_Qa9R5N3mSeXSYYWtqz_DFidzYQw@mail.gmail.com> <20111215024249.GA13557@icarus.home.lan> <4EE9A2A0.80607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <CADWvR2hpooV4Sdkzor6oHpXWkLCz0z0UxBB_-nnrnYLeUY5oow@mail.gmail.com> <CANY-Wm8DmFxm7xwXfRcyBSu4z6fTOap%2By=Mhx%2BuBP=uJN4g3fw@mail.gmail.com> <4EF1121F.9010209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111220232925.GA55953@icarus.home.lan> <4EF12815.2090805@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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21.12.2011, 04:28, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>: > On 12/21/11 00:29, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> šOn Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:54:23PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> šOn 12/20/11 22:45, Samuel J. Greear wrote: >>>> šhttp://www.osnews.com/story/25334/DragonFly_BSD_MP_Performance_Significantly_Improved >>>> >>>> šPostgreSQL tests, see the linked PDF for #'s on FreeBSD, DragonFly, Linux >>>> šand Solaris. Steps to reproduce these benchmarks provided. >>>> >>>> šSam >>>> >>>> šOn Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>wrote: >>>>> šInterestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on >>>>> šcriticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative >>>>> šbenchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to >>>>> šbenchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any >>>>> šnumbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, or any other "real >>>>> šworld"-application torture tests done on the aforementioned two >>>>> šplatforms... IMO, this just goes to show that "doing is hard" and >>>>> š"criticising is much easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony involved in >>>>> šmaking this statement, but someone has to!) >>>>> >>>>> šCheers, >>>>> šIgor M :-) >>>>> š_______________________________________________ >>>>> šfreebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> šhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >>>>> šTo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> šThanks for those numbers. >>> šImpressive how Matthew Dillon's project jumps forward now. And it is >>> šstill impressive to see that the picture is still in the right place >>> šwhen it comes to a comparison to Linux. >>> šAlso, OpenIndiana shows an impressive performance. >> šPreface to my long post below: >> >> šThe things being discussed here are benchmarks, as in "how much work >> šcan you get out of Thing". šThis is VERY DIFFERENT from testing >> šinteractivity in a scheduler, which is more of a test that says "when >> šThing X is executed while heavier-Thing Y is also being executed, how >> šmuch interaction is lost in Thing X". >> >> šThe reason people notice this when using Xorg is because it's visual, >> šin an environment where responsiveness is absolutely mandatory above all >> šelse. šNobody is going to put up with a system where during a buildworld >> šthey go to move a window or click a mouse button or type a key and find >> šthat the window doesn't move, the mouse click is lost, or the key typed >> šhas gone into the bit bucket -- or, that those things are SEVERELY >> šdelayed, to the point where interactivity is crap. > > I whitnessed sticky, jumpy and non-responsive-for seconds FreeBSD > servers (serving homes, NFS/SAMBA and PostgreSQL database (small)). > Those "seconds" where enough to cut a ssh line. Not funny. Network > traffic droped significantly. X/Desktop makes the problem visible, > indeed. But not seeing it does not mean it isn't there. > This might be the reason why FreeBSD is so much behind when it comes to X? > Well... Are you talking about FreeBSD being laggy with the X and other GUI staff? Well, am I so lucky to have great responsiveness and interactivity here in X with the FreeBSD? The interactiveness was one the reasons I've switched my desktop from Windows to *nix (specifically FreeBSD). >> šI just want to make that clear to folks. šThis immense thread has been .... Regards, Vans.
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