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Date:      Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:43:51 +0100
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= <sos@DeepCore.dk>
To:        David Gilbert <dgilbert@dclg.ca>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: List of fake vs. real SATA drives.
Message-ID:  <41A31467.4060400@DeepCore.dk>
In-Reply-To: <16802.46733.409188.353864@canoe.dclg.ca>
References:  <16798.12075.465147.307112@canoe.dclg.ca> <864qjixdpi.wl%sf@FreeBSD.org>	<41A1FB7D.9000308@jonny.eng.br> <Pine.OSX.4.61.0411221417120.787@oof.local>	<41A2444E.2090609@jonny.eng.br> <16802.17819.983480.763628@canoe.dclg.ca>	<41A251F5.9020601@DeepCore.dk> <16802.46733.409188.353864@canoe.dclg.ca>

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David Gilbert wrote:
>>>>>>"S=F8ren" =3D=3D S=F8ren Schmidt <sos@DeepCore.dk> writes:
>=20
>=20
> S=F8ren> David Gilbert wrote:
>=20
>>>>>>>>"Jo=E3o" =3D=3D Jo=E3o Carlos Mendes Lu=EDs <jonny@jonny.eng.br> =
writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>Jo=E3o> IIF they really have command queueing, I do believe.  So, a
>>>Jo=E3o> bridged SATA drive will not have command queuing, right?
>>>
>>>Well... from what I've read, the WD bridged drives do have queueing
>>>because they had an ATA-100 implementation of it.
>>>
>>>Jo=E3o> Does FreeBSD already take advantage of this?  How could I
>>>check Jo=E3o> if my SATA drivers have command queueing or not?
>>>
>>>I'd like to know as well.
>=20
>=20
> S=F8ren> Currently the ATA driver does not support neither TCQ nor NCQ.=

>=20
> S=F8ren> For this to work at all both disk and controller needs to
> S=F8ren> support the mode in question. I've just gotten my hands on one=

> S=F8ren> of the new Promise controllers that supports NCQ, but I still
> S=F8ren> need disks to get it going.  I do have a few Raptor's that
> S=F8ren> support the TCQ mode but initial testing shows little benefit
> S=F8ren> from it so it moved to the backburner...
>=20
> Do you need direct access to a drive or is access to a machine with a
> drive/controller in it sufficient.  Are promise controllers the only
> ones to support NCQ so far?  Promise doesn't always have the best
> reputation.  We may be able to provide a test machine with remote
> access to a drive/controller combination.

Usually I'd need "hands on" HW for things like this, as there might be=20
alot of resetting/powertoggle in there until things gets twisted the=20
right way, its just so much easier to deal with. Lets see how things=20
turns out, if I cannot get my hands on real disks here in the lab, I'll=20
take you up on the offer..

--=20

-S=F8ren




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