Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:37:45 +0000 From: Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c Message-ID: <3AAEBD59.1B77E450@originative.co.uk> References: <3AAEA597.81830243@originative.co.uk> <20010313155059P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3AAEB5CC.640D6CAA@originative.co.uk> <20010313161027E.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
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Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > but what about the sysadmin who has to support a real world environment > > where a product needs to be upgraded to fix a bug, a typical, real world > > application like say the web server, or database. > > The sysadmin who has to do all of that doesn't need the ports > collection to hold his hand (or some other appendage) just to do > spot-upgrades of specific pieces. You think Solaris admins never > upgrade Apache just because they don't have a ports collection? The ports collection is one of FreeBSD's big selling points. It's so comprehensive that it's a real pity when you have to pollute /usr/local/ on a box with files that aren't under the control of pkg_delete. If it's the case that you have to give up on using one of FreeBSD's key features in order to keep up to date with patches in an application then that's a big loss in terms of the attractiveness of FreeBSD to the serious user. I've won around sysadmins to using FreeBSD because of the ease of maintaining ports but the ease-of-use claims look pretty flimsy when three months after installation you tell them they have to either upgrade to the latest FreeBSD release or give up on the ports collection and go back to doing things by hand if they want to keep up to date with their application releases. Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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