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Date:      Mon, 26 Dec 2011 19:26:46 +0200
From:      Maxim Ignatenko <gelraen.ua@gmail.com>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-rc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: conf/163508: [rc.subr] [patch] Add &quot; enable&quot; and &quot; disable&quot; commands to rc.subr
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On 26 December 2011 08:12, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 12/24/2011 15:08, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/24/2011 08:46, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>> Also, let's not reject =C2=A0it before it is done. =C2=A0Let's reject =
it
>>>> when it actually doesn't handle the cases that are interesting.
>>>> No sense in cutting off a good feature because of some
>>>> theoretical problem. =C2=A0It is a problem we have sometimes in the
>>>> project...
>>>
>>> Warner,
>>>
>>> You seemed to have missed the bit where I said, "We've already been
>>> down this path once before, and it turns out to be way harder to do
>>> this right than it looks at first glance."
>>
>> No, I get that totally. =C2=A0I just don't care. =C2=A0The fact that oth=
ers
>> have failed shouldn't mean we should discourage others from trying.
>> We shouldn't be shooting arrows at people before they are given a
>> chance to produce something good or bad, or when they do shooting
>> them without evaluating their work.
>
> You do get that the OP included a patch, right?
>
>>> Just as an example of potential problems, imagine a scenario where
>>> the user has foo_enable=3DNO in rc.conf, but the service keeps
>>> starting up anyway.
>>
>> Most people call that a bug, or at least POLA. =C2=A0The few cases in th=
e
>> tree where bar_enable=3Dyes forces foo_enable=3Dyes can be dealt with.
>
> No, you seem to be missing my point. Because of the way that rc.d
> processes the various *conf* options the last match "wins." So let's say
> that you had foo_enable=3D0 in /etc/rc.conf; but one of the conf files
> that's processed later has foo_enable=3D1. If that's the last match, it
> gets started. This is one of the many concerns regarding trying to
> automatically enable or disable things.
>

Proposed patch searches all files (except /etc/defaults/rc.conf) that
are included by load_rc_config() in _reverse_ order, so even if there
are some other files included in rc.conf, foo_enable=3DNO gets added to
the end of last processed file and we still have foo enabled.



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