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Date:      Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Jamil J. Weatherbee" <jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org>
To:        "Jay D. Nelson" <jdn@qiv.com>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Hackers <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Do *you* have problems with floppies?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970911232440.554C-100000@counterintelligence.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970911204009.509D-100000@acp.qiv.com>

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I started my machine up fine with the freebsd boot disk to change a few
things it loaded as normal --- but my floppy has never worked from within
freebsd, I've reported it a few times but people seem to think it is just
me.


On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Jay D. Nelson wrote:

> Sorry, I can't offer any help with software bugs. I've used an
> odd-ball assortment of floppies since 2.0 with less than 5% failure. I
> rarely bother to reformat. I dd the image to /dev/fd0 and am as happy
> as a pig in a mud hole. I'm using Mitsumis now, but have used Teacs and
> Sonys equally well. If there's a bug, I haven't seen it.
> 
> I would suspect the ability of a MicroS**t product to do anything
> rational with questionable media. Maybe the dos program (rawrite?)
> needs to make up for Redmond's short comings?
> 
> -- Jay 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
>     > I've seen a lot of reports recently about problems with floppies under
>     > FreeBSD.  Now I can understand a lot of that: floppies must be the
>     > most unreliable data storage medium I can think of, not to mention the
>     > most expensive per byte.  But I'm getting the feeling that there is
>     > more to it than that, that possibly there's a bug in the floppy driver
>     > and that we're blaming it on the inherent unreliability of the medium.
>     > 
>     > I'm looking for indications which would point towards the driver.  One
>     > of these might be:
>     > 
>     > 1.  Floppy formatted under <insert your OS here> on the same machine.
>     > 2.  FreeBSD runs into hardware problems with the floppy (typically
>     >     things like checksum errors).
>     > 3.  <insert your OS here> can read the entire floppy with no trouble.
>     > 
>     > If you can give me hard evidence of such occurrences, I'd like to hear
>     > from you.  I know that plenty of people can tell me that they've had
>     > occurrences of (2), maybe in conjunction with (1), but unless you can
>     > prove (3) as well, I don't want to hear from you.
>     > 
>     > In addition, if you have any other evidence I haven't thought of which
>     > would also point to an error in the floppy driver, please contact me.
>     > 
>     > Greg
> 
> 
> 




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