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Date:      Thu, 13 May 1999 17:06:38 -0700 (PWT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Gerard Roudier <groudier@club-internet.fr>
Cc:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IBM scsi drives
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9905131706140.28716-100000@feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990514003338.2593A-100000@localhost>

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> > 
> > Yes, I agree. But systems and f/w don't always do the right thing.
> > 
> > Suns enable sync mode first, and then enable wide. IBM Drive accepts the
> > wide and chokes. It's not that it goes back to Async. It just chokes.
> 
> (Just guessing about the reasons of the correponding clause in the specs) 
> The reason of Wide forcing back to Async may be due to the fact that
> doubling the BUS width just doubles the data speed and requires twice more
> bytes for the offset. For these reasons, a device may elect to negotiate
> different period/offset value for SDTR depending on the current agreement
> on BUS width. 
> 
> On the other hand, SPI-2 says _explicitely_ that WIDE must be negotiated
> prior to SYNC and SCSI-2 was also clear about WIDE forcing ASYNC. What you
> report is properly unbeleivable, unless Sun guys that maintain Sun's SCSI
> stuff are absolute morons. But, may-be, they just donnot want to fix their
> stuff. Result of such important vendor not conforming to the specs may
> encourage SCSI device manufacturers to sell non compliant devices that may
> defeat compliant drivers and controllers. It is properly unacceptable. 


As a former Sun employee, I'll agree with some of this.




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