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Date:      Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:32:24 +0900
From:      Kazutaka YOKOTA <yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>
To:        David Malone <dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie>
Cc:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@mail.theinternet.com.au>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp
Subject:   Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse? 
Message-ID:  <200011270232.LAA19383@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:17:19 GMT." <20001126231719.A32978@walton.maths.tcd.ie> 
References:  <20001127024056.F14398@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <200011262120.eAQLKfe01568@gratis.grondar.za> <20001126231719.A32978@walton.maths.tcd.ie> 

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>To be fair, if the random module depends that badly on getting
>entropy from the mouse it isn't much good for many of our users
>who may not even have a mouse, keyboard or console. (Even when
>using X, personally I use the mouse as little as possible. On some
>of our servers the console is rarely used).

I tend to agree.  Moused is an optional component in FreeBSD, 
thus, we cannot expect that it is always running.

It may be a good source of randomness, but the random module
cannot and should not depend on it so heavily.

Kazu

>I think the yarrow stuff is probably somewhat more roubust than
>requiring the mouse - as long as there is some source of entropy.
>What other sources does the random device currently use?
>
>	David.



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