Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:13:40 +0200 From: Sabine Baer <baerks@t-online.de> To: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: The future of USENET? Message-ID: <20130401021340.GB67589@amd.catfish.ddns.org> In-Reply-To: <CAD2Ti2-5GDjpOoue1gCb5ZJryT9b%2B1kEGkaehMkTk0CECxrr3w@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAD2Ti2-5GDjpOoue1gCb5ZJryT9b%2B1kEGkaehMkTk0CECxrr3w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 02:12:06PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: [...] > Back then you had to have brains to be on the net, now everyone is > web 2.0, and they're satisfied with ridiculous web forums. Any > brains today are all but forced to use them because the population > is so slim anywhere else. Usenet has suffered its generational > penalty. > > Usenet is still viable long term as a free/donation service, as is > irc, if operators do not carry the binary groups. Its new hope lies > with the opensource, hackerspace, anonymous, and related communities > of all sorts. No. I have contacts to the german Pirate Party. They have an own Newsserver where Mails an forum entries are mirrored. (https://github.com/Shirk/SynFU/blob/master/doc/_static/intro.rst http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Syncom) They mostly communicate - if not using www-2.0 shit - over Mailing Lists. They have different mailreader and no netiquette, they write as their program will do, html of course and attachments of different kind. I don't know how many use the news server but for sure they are very few. > As a giant distributed mailing list, it's an awesome service that > these communities really should look at more closely. They don't. I thought they should see usenet as best medium for a free, worldwide, non censored and not destroyable communication. But they are Nerds, they use facebook, twitter, google+, write to mailing lists, mostly using "webmail services" (I think so), own forums and write blogs. Oh, and etherpads and videos on youtube. It's all diversified, atomized, very difficult to find. But - they are mobile people and when I began 'advertizing' usenet or nntp, they asked if they can reach it with ervery computer from everywhere. Well, i couldn;t answer that, it is a real negativum of today's usenet. I didn't give up and created a newsgroup free.de.thalassa, but without success. It's on nntp.aioe.org and news.eternal-september.org and since a few days on news.individual.net (without the older postings). No, those civil rights activists are unable to understand the benefits of usenet or nntp in general. They prefere the services of private companies which ideed are more colourful and have more gimmicks. > Its future is up to you... will you run a server and list it as > a communication method (even primary) for your project, or not? > Will you donate a server to the public, or not? I tried to install (very easy under FreeBSD) an configure (not easy at all) an INN but I gave up. No, that's not trivial, I am using news.individual.net, a very fine server (10,- EUR a year) an have accounts at nntp.aioe.org and news.eternal-september.org. But a server doesn't generate traffic if there's a lack of people using it. Sorry for my bad English, Sabine, who didn't find yet something better than NNTP -- Der Schoepfer schoepft die Zeit aus dem unendlichen Quell des Nichts. Mensch befoerdert seine Zeit wieder dorthin. Klar, gaaanz einfach. Sozusagen ein Kreislauf der Zeit durchs Nichts. (horst-d.winzler in dst)
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