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Date:      Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:42:16 -0700
From:      "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net>
To:        "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Resolver issues 
Message-ID:  <20001206131322.DA8CB37B400@hub.freebsd.org>

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On  5 Dec 00 at 12:56, Kevin Oberman wrote:

>> From: "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net>
>> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:04:32 -0700
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>> 
>> On  4 Dec 00 at 16:51, Alexander Anderson wrote:
>> Hi...
>> 
>> >On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 09:17:41 PM or thereabouts, Crist J . Clark
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> > $ ifconfig tun0 | grep "inet "
>> >> >         inet 64.229.84.85 --> 64.229.84.1 netmask 0xffffff00 
>> >>                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> Well that doesn't look right.
>> >
>> >Hmm, what should it be? I'll try to experiment with my network settings
>> >then. And here's my ``ppp.conf'' by the way; does anything look strange
>> >here?
>> 
>> I'm just a dumb newbie, so I might be totally wrong, but 64.229.84.85 
>> looks an awful like a Class A address. If it is, the netmask s/b 255.0.0.0 
>> or 0xff000000. Somebody horse-whip me if I'm out-to-lunch here....
>
>There are no classfull addresses any more. 64 is being handed out in
>the same chunks that other addresses have been handed out. Classless
>addressing has been the norm in the Internet backbone for about 5
>years. That said, I don't know if 0xffffff00 is the correct netmask,
>but I do know that 0xff000000 is not correct.

Something told me to keep my yap shut... but noooo! I've been reading a 
couple of books (the suckers must out-of-date!) trying to learn about 
creating subnets from a single IP address. Of course the matter of 
netmasks and subnet-masks is pivotal to the readings. I thought I had the 
stuff aced ;(

>The proper way to specify a network is prefix/length.
>E.g. 127.0.0.1/32, 128.1.0.0/22, 64.229.84.1.0/23.

Would you translate the above to the old way, so that I can see the logic. 
I read it as:

address: 127.0.0.1  use 32 bits for the netmask
address: 128.1.0.0  use 22 bits for the netmask (11111111 11111111 
11111100 00000000) or 0xfffffc00

>But I think I'll pass on the horse-whipping. (Are you the whip or is
>the horse? Either way it sound like animal cruelty.)

I've broken & trained quite a few horses in my lifetime, and *never* 
injured or whipped a one. They've put a hurting to me though on several 
occasions ;,) Forget horse-whip, thanks for not flaming my butt!

-duke
Calgary,Alberta, Canada


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