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Date:      Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:21:04 -0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: config(8) broken 
Message-ID:  <200101291621.f0TGL4453408@mobile.wemm.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0101300236340.2753-100000@besplex.bde.org> 

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Bruce Evans wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Peter Wemm wrote:
> 
> > Bruce Evans wrote:
> > > Config now removes almost all headers:
> > > ...
> > > This is starting from compile directory populated by a previous version
> > > of config.  Starting from scratch, config seems to work for the first
> > > run.  The second run complains about all headers, deletes them all, and
> > > doesn't create any.  The third run seems to work...
> > 
> > What are the chances that you did this on a mount -o noatime file system?
> 
> Very high :-).

Heh. :-)

> I'm surprised the bug doesn't affect fast machines, since config doesn't
> seem to sleep for >= 1 second to ensure that the atimes advance with
> the standard mount options.

I was primarily testing it on a dual P3-733 w/ 1G ram which was running
config nearly instantly.  I never saw this problem until I tested it
on a fresh machine that (by sheer chance) happened to be running noatime (it
was a laptop).  For what it's worth, I did roll the start time back by one
second to give a bit more comfort - getting rid of the trays isn't all that
critical.

For UFS at least, we seem to update the atime instantly but schedule
writeback to the inode "whenever".

148# date ; ls -lutT foo1 ; cat foo1 ; ls -lutT foo1; date
Mon Jan 29 08:18:02 PST 2001
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  4 Jan 29 08:16:25 2001 foo1
foo
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  4 Jan 29 08:18:02 2001 foo1
Mon Jan 29 08:18:02 PST 2001

This is all within the same second "tick" and the atime change was visible.

> Bruce


Cheers,
-Peter
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