Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:59:36 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, Devin Teske <devin.teske@fisglobal.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Boot Loader Menu Message-ID: <981AFB75-8A23-4CB1-906B-7E61D76A150B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5071EAEB.9090509@freebsd.org> References: <0655B56F-AD43-402B-872C-568378E650F9@fisglobal.com> <86k3v21qsx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3EB58454-7820-43C4-911E-7DEF2D02C880@fisglobal.com> <86fw5q15f9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <D61F7ED5-76C3-453D-878A-F0C678198C87@fisglobal.com> <A5FE9B8C-742B-45E0-85EB-1092A7D58D04@gmail.com> <0CB9F1EA-2176-4AE9-B899-6E8744D06DC7@fisglobal.com> <5071EAEB.9090509@freebsd.org>
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On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/7/12 1:36 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >> On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>=20 >>> On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Oct 7, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Devin Teske <devin.teske@fisglobal.com> writes: >>>>>> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav <des@des.no> writes: >>>>>>> What problem are you trying to solve, exactly? >>>>>> Many in-fact: >>>>>> [list of things that bear no relation whatsoever to what was = actually >>>>>> in the email I replied to] >>>> I disagree with your slight that those "things =85 bear no relation = whatsoever to what was actually in the e-mail [you] replied to". >>>>=20 >>>> It only *seem* as those are unrelated. I assure you, they are = _very_ related (and it's very much my mistake for not making it clear in = my initial e-mail). I must apologize for this lack of clarity (I try to = rectify it below). >>>>=20 >>>>> Then maybe you should have focused on that in your original email. >>>>>=20 >>>> Yes, perhaps. >>>>=20 >>>> Perhaps it would have been better to explain: >>>>=20 >>>> Hey=85 >>>>=20 >>>> + iX and I are working on enhancing the boot loader menu to include = a new submenu for selecting a Boot Environment (BE). I'm providing the = menu infrastructure, iX is providing the C code to populate that menu. >>> Sounds like GRUB/Plymouth's model... sorta. >>>=20 >>>> + We can't add this new menu item without pigeon-holing ourselves = into a position where no more menuitems can be added. >>> Understood. >>>=20 >>> ... >>> - Have you considered high resolution screens/fonts; there are some = already in FreeBSD hooked into syscons, but that's available later on at = boot? I mention this because there's a lot of wasted real estate on my = 30" or 24" LCDs when I boot up FreeBSD. >>>=20 >> Adding screen real-estate won't help. Menus (and any of the maximum = 65535 submenus) are always limited to 9 maximum menu items. >>=20 >> A significant overhaul of the Forth code would be required to = accommodate more than 9 menu items per-menu. >>=20 >> Currently, if a 10th menuitem were rendered (assuming I lifted the = boundary-checks), it would be rendered as such: >>=20 >> =85 >> 8. Eighth Item >> 9. Ninth Item >> 1. Tenth item >=20 > A,B,C,D..... Z? My mom would be confused with a user interface like that, but it would = sure be funny to watch :) (makes me feel like Sesame Street). -Garrett=
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