Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:34:13 -0400 From: Richard Kuhns <rjk@wintek.com> To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Cc: Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Net-SNMP conflict Message-ID: <537B9215.7050608@wintek.com> In-Reply-To: <537B796A.7060103@freebsd.org> References: <537B0FCB.7020608@altadena.net> <2d991d03fb98e2304c9abf70bcd14f78@mail.feld.me> <537B613A.7010604@wintek.com> <537B796A.7060103@freebsd.org>
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Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 05/20/14 15:05, Richard Kuhns wrote:
>> Mark Felder wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-20 03:18, Pete Carah wrote:
>>>> PLEASE don't automatically install pkg during the build of ANY other
>>>> package; if this happens in the middle of a portupgrade -a on a system
>>>> without pkgng, the result is not pretty; all packages built after
>>>> net-snmp have a duplicated origin, among other things. I hope I can
>>>> recover the system since it is supposed to be a production server.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I realize I'll have to convert. However, this forced install
>>>> doesn't convert the database so the pkg database and /var/db/pkg end up
>>>> inconsistent, and I can't tell what is really installed on all of the
>>>> packages that show a duplicated origin.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ports-mgmt/pkg should not be a dependency of any port. Are you saying
>>> this happened? Can you identify which port?
>
> Actually, pkg(8) being a dependency of something else is OK. It's
> pkg(8) itself that should not have any dependencies.
>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> The Makefile for net-mgmt/net-snmp contains this snippet:
>>
>> # pkg-1.2 cannot handle this dependency well.
>> .if !defined(WITH_PKGNG)
>> LIB_DEPENDS= libpkg.so:${PORTSDIR}/ports-mgmt/pkg
>> .endif
>>
>
> net-snmpd uses pkg(8) to extract the list of installed packages.
>
> To the OP: just having pkg(8) installed out of ports and sitting on your
> drive will not hurt you. You have to start running it before anything
> (nice or nasty) would happen.
>
> If you don't want to switch to pkgng just yet, then don't run pkg2ng.
> Similarly don't add 'WITH_PKGNG=yes' to /etc/make.conf (if you're going
> to be compiling your own ports using portmaster(8) or otherwise) and
> don't use pkg(8) to install any packages. Everything that is pkgng
> aware should be using somewhat more sophisticated tests than just 'is
> /usr/local/sbin/pkg installed' to determine if the system is pkgng-ified
> or not.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
>
So doesn't that mean that the net-snmp port is doing things wrong? If
pkg *isn't* installed it's pretty safe to say that net-snmpd is not
going to be able to use pkg(8) to extract the the list of installed
packages even after listing it as a dependency & therefore installing
it, right?
Just trying to get clear on what's going on...
Thanks,
- Richard
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