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Date:      Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:08:50 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Alex Lyashkov <shadow@psoft.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: jail extensions
Message-ID:  <20060607160850.GB18940@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200606070819.04301.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <1149610678.4074.42.camel@berloga.shadowland> <448633F2.7030902@elischer.org> <20060607095824.W53690@fledge.watson.org> <200606070819.04301.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 08:19:03AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 04:59, Robert Watson wrote:
> >=20
> > On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >=20
> > >> I'd like to clarify Alex's point a bit: he wants to know his work is=
=20
> > >> acceptable by the project and could be merged.  It's obvious it's al=
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> > >> impossible to maintain that outside of the tree.
> > >>=20
> > > I'd like to see him merge his project with Marco's . If so then I'd b=
e=20
> more=20
> > > than happy to see this stuff come in once it reaches a certain level =
of=20
> > > maturity.
> > >
> > > Marco and I have been going over some possible macros that could be u=
sed=20
> to=20
> > > help with a lot of this and if the macros were used then some of the=
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> changes=20
> > > could come in quite early as they would compile out to NOPs for anyon=
e not=20
> > > using the changes. ( and provide an easy target for removal if it=20
> eventually=20
> > > doesn't complete).
> >=20
> > FYI, Marko was at the FreeBSD developer summit at BSDCan, and has expre=
ssed=20
> > the intent of updating his patches to 6.x/HEAD, so I think there's=20
> definitely=20
> > room for collaboration here.
>=20
> What did you think about Alex's idea of a 'prison0' to for all "non-jaile=
d"=20
> processes so that lots of things can move into 'struct prison' and not=20
> require as much special casing (though then there would be a different se=
t of=20
> special cases I guess as prison0 would be the only prison that could crea=
te=20
> child prisons, etc.?)

It's not clear to me that we want to use the same containers to control
all resouces since you might want a set of jails sharing IPC resources
or being allocated a slice of processor time to divide amongst them
selves if we had a hierarchical scheduler.  That said, using a single
prison structure could do this if we allowed the administrator to
specifiy a hierarchy of prisons and not necessicairly enclose all
resources in all prisons.

-- Brooks

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