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Date:      Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:47:58 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Mobile Computer <mobile@vta.com>
To:        freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Nokia 8210 (6190!)
Message-ID:  <200107031547.LAA42732@mailhub.vta.com>

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>On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:39:45 +0100, Scott Mitchell <scott.mitchell@mail.com>
> appears to have said:

>As for the phones, most of the high-end Nokias, and handsets from other
>manufacturers, emulate a standard modem, so while you need a special cable
>to plug into the phone, you don't need gNokii or anything else to make use
>of it -- it looks just like any other serial port device.  Most of these
>handsets will also talk IrDA.  My Nokia 7110 is an example of such a
>handset.  Older models, like the 5110, don't have the modem emulation and
>need special software to use them for data connections.
>
>If you're going to be using mobile data a lot, I'd definitely recommend a
>higher-end handset (Nokia 6xxx or 7xxx, or one of the Ericsson Rxxx).  That 
>should 'just work' with any device with a serial or IrDA port.
>

Your assertion about 'just working' with a serial port, absent gNokii: I just 
tried this on a 4.2-RELEASE machine,  with a brand new Nokia 6190 without 
success. Am I missing something obvious? Could support for this behavior 
and these phones ( as serial port connected  modem devices ) actually be part
of a ( later ) sio (4) driver?

For reference, the phone does appear to work as expected with Nokia's bundled
software and /* dreaded */ W98. 

I have plans to try out gNokii later this afternoon. It would be great if 
this works under any FreeBSD related circumstance, I am trying to replace
a  Mitsubishi PCMCIA GSM data modem / phone combo which has an unknown 
hardware incompatibility with my (used to be) new Toshiba 1695 CDT. 

Despite bios, bios setting, kernel config, kernel build,

#ifdef SANITY_TEST_ONLY
/* dreaded */ W95, W98, W2000, NT installations,
#endif 

freeBSD releases from 2.2.7 through 4.2, and literally adding printf to 
virtually every line of code in the 4.2-RELEASE serial driver, this Mitsubishi
card freezes the 1695 CDT solid as soon as sioopen() returns. We're talking
unplug from the wall, remove the battery, start over. ( This machine also has 
a 'toy' Phoenix bios with way too few knobs to suit me. I wanted to try killing
PNP, I can't.)
On a reboot after the freeze, the card's CIS tuples cannot be read by this 
machine. Another machine ( next paragraph ) immediately reads the card just 
fine. This just plain has to be a hardware incompatibility problem.

But oddly, this PCMCIA card still works like a champ with my stone-aged Toshiba 
2505CDS, running 2.2.7-PAO, still, after all this time. I'm just weary of
traveling with two laptops.

This is a great reference thread, keep going, thanks for any information.

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VTA INC.  // VTA Technologies // Steadifilm  Corporation  
Atlanta, Georgia
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