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Date:      Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:14:12 -0600
From:      "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>
To:        "Cyrille Lefevre" <clefevre@citeweb.net>, "Jochem Kossen" <j.kossen@home.nl>
Cc:        "Dinesh Nair" <dinesh@alphaque.com>, "Tom Fischer" <tfischer@rain.fr>, "FreeBSD-Stable" <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: linux-base 6.2 vs  linux-base 7
Message-ID:  <004c01c17628$6bd0cce0$d800a8c0@inethouston.net>
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> > You may want to try to get rid of linux_base6 and 7 and do a fresh
> > install of 7.  I know staroffice works right out of the ports with
> > 7  and linux-netscape just needs a symlink to the libstdc++.  I do
> > not  know about linux-opera.
>
> frankly, do you think it is a normal thing to do ? how about other
> linux ports which all depend on linux_base while staroffice6 is the
> only one depending on linux_base-7 ! as I remember me, staroffice6

This is normal because there's a bug in the way redhat 7.x treats shared
libs.  If you want to complain about how absurd the workaround is spam the
redhat mailing list because its their fault!

staroffice6 is the only port that depends on linux_base7 because it
practically requires the new linuxulator kernel and redhat7

> also works w/ linux_base, so, why not just switching it to use
> linux_base
> instead of linux_base-7 and to switch all linux ports to linux_base-7
> when they will be right to use it. the *right* alternative, of
> course,

They can use it with little modification.  Most only require you changing
the dependency in the Makefile

> would be to fix linux_base-7 to be linux_base compatible... but
> nobody care and everybody seems to considere normal what's
> happen !!!

Its not that linux_base-7 isn't "linux_base" compatible its that redhat 7
has a shared lib bug.  We will have to use some of linux_base6's libc5 for
those ports which actually require it, but we can't even get a grasp on what
doesn't work under linux_base7 because we can't get enough details about
what doesn't work.  Most people just say "it doesn't work, linux_base-7
sucks".  The reality is that linux_base-6 will go away because we are
phasing in linux_base7 so we have to fix what we can to make the ports work
with it whether its modifying the linux_base7 port or the ports that depend
on it.  This is going to be on a per port basis, there is no simple fix to
fix all the problems in this massive upgrade process.  We cannot continue
until people start substantiating problems with a fresh linux_base-7
installation instead of complaining how it works.



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