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Date:      Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:24:56 -0400 
From:      Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
To:        "'Dainel \"The Bruce\" Keller'" <dkeller@psln.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: beginner question: how can I determine my local IP address? ( can't ping)
Message-ID:  <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105976@site2s1>

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I seem to remember Brian Somers telling me that you can't ping or telnet,
etc to your dynamically assigned IP address, because the link is a
point-to-point link.

Can you ping/telnet/etc.. your ip address from another machine on the
internet?

I will try this when I get home from work tonight to verify if this is
indeed the case.  Is the ppp link working otherwise, or is it a more serious
problem??

Maybe Brian can chime in here if I am wrong (or right)?

-Chris


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dainel "The Bruce" Keller [SMTP:dkeller@psln.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:39 PM
> To:	ChrisMic@clientlogic.com
> Cc:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Fw: begginner question: how can I determine my local IP
> address? (can't ping)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dainel "The Bruce" Keller <dkeller@psln.com>
> To: Jamie Lawrence <jal@thirdage.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: begginner question: how can I determine my local IP address?
> (can't ping)
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the help, I think i may have confused things a bit.
> > I do have a NIC, but it is connected only to my other home computer, not
> the
> >  internet. I am connected to my ISP through a dialup line, so the IP
> > should be the IP of the machine (or the modem?) right? I put the XXs on
> the
> > IP to show that it is dynamically assigned in that range. Once I know my
> > local IP I can ping it from my other computer by the NIC, and I assume
> other
> > computers on the internet can get to it, but I can't ping it from itself
> > using the IP address. Here is the output of "ifconfig -a":
> >
> > ed0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> >  inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
> >  ether 00:00:c0:59:a6:f4
> > ppp0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1006
> >  inet 206.155.61.157 --> 206.155.61.100 netmask 0xffffff00
> > lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
> >  inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
> >
> > here is "netstat -rn":
> > Routing tables
> >
> > Internet:
> > Destination        Gateway            Flags     Refs     Use     Netif
> > Expire
> > default            206.155.61.100     UGSc        3        8     ppp0
> > 10/24              link#1             UC          0        0      ed0
> > 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0      lo0
> > 206.155.61.100     206.155.61.157     UH          3        0     ppp0
> >
> >
> > here is "ipfw show":
> > 00100 15 1260 divert 8668 ip from any to any via ppp0
> > 65535  0    0 allow ip from any to any
> >
> > "ping localhost":
> > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.052 ms
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.043 ms
> > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.030 ms
> >
> > --- localhost ping statistics ---
> > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
> > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.030/0.042/0.052/0.009 ms
> >
> > "ping 206.155.61.157":
> > PING 206.155.61.157 (206.155.61.157): 56 data bytes
> >
> > --- 206.155.61.157 ping statistics ---
> > 8 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great,
> > Thanks again,
> > Daniel Keller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jamie Lawrence <jal@thirdage.com>
> > To: Dainel "The Bruce" Keller <dkeller@psln.com>; Christopher Michaels
> > <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 2:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: begginner question: how can I determine my local IP
> address?
> > (can't ping)
> >
> >
> > > At 03:13 PM 6/8/99 -0700, Dainel \"The Bruce\" Keller wrote:
> > > >Thanks, I had been looking all over the mailing list and gerneally
> > getting
> > > >nowhere. unfortunately I now have a rather larger problem. I can't
> ping
> > or
> > > >telnet to myself by the IP address. I can ping localhost fine, but
> not
> my
> > IP
> > > >(206.155.61.1XX). I have tried flushing ipfw and making sure it is
> not
> > > >blocking anything, but I have no idea what to try next. And
> suggestions
> > > >would help greatly.
> > > >Thanks again for the help!
> > > >Daniel Keller
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that the IP address (206.155.61.130, BTW - you're
> > > not protecting yourself by obscuring it) is The NIC's IP,
> > > not the machine's. Make sure you ifconfig'ed your device correctly.
> > >
> > > Do an ifconfig -a and see what it tells you it thinks its IP,
> > > netmask, broadcast, etc. are.
> > >
> > > -j
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > >To: 'Dainel "The Bruce" Keller' <dkeller@psln.com>
> > > >Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List (E-mail) <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 1:58 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: begginner question: how can I determine my local IP
> address?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> ifconfig <interface>
> > > >>
> > > >> Where <interface> is the name of your network interface.  E.g. if I
> > wanted
> > > >> to see my ip for my ppp I would type.
> > > >>
> > > >> ifconfig tun0
> > > >>
> > > >> -Chris
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: Dainel "The Bruce" Keller [SMTP:dkeller@psln.com]
> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 5:27 PM
> > > >> > To: questions@freebsd.org
> > > >> > Subject: begginner question: how can i determin my local IP
> address?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I posted a similar message here last night, but I haven't gotten
> any
> > > >> > response and I never received the message myself so I'm not sure
> if
> > it
> > > >got
> > > >> > through,
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > From: Daniel Keller <dkeller@psln.com>
> > > >> > Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 1:39 PM
> > > >> > Subject: begginner question: how can i determin my local IP
> address?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > > I am having some trouble determining my local IP address when I
> > dial
> > > >> > into
> > > >> > my
> > > >> > > ISP. I have been getting what I believe is my IP from
> > "netstat -rn",
> > > >but
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > > can not usr this number to telnet, or ftp, or connect to any of
> the
> > > >> > other
> > > >> > > services available on "localhost" or "127.0.0.1". I am not sure
> if
> > I
> > > >am
> > > >> > > getting the IP wrong, or if for some reason I cannon connect to
> > myself
> > > >> > > though the IP (perhaps I need to enable some sort of other
> routing,
> > or
> > > >> > > change my ipfw rules, which are currently set up for natd and
> are
> > > >using
> > > >> > > "ipfw add pass all from any to any"). Any help would be greatly
> > > >> > appreciated.
> > > >> > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > Daniel Keller


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