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Date:      Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:20:29 +0400
From:      Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r257696 - in head: libexec/rbootd share/man/man9 sys/compat/svr4 sys/net sys/sys
Message-ID:  <20131106062029.GP7577@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmomwok%2BJSeM%2BVswr2v%2BkV6jJ4=%2BnFQt%2BQWEsOOmnQPBasA@mail.gmail.com> <201311051718.26356.jhb@freebsd.org>

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  John, Adrian,

On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 05:18:26PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
J> Mmmm, people run older versions of binaries (even open source ones) on newer OS's
J> perhaps more often than you think.   The COMPAT_43 stuff can be dropped certainly,
J> but people will almost certainly do rolling upgrades where they upgrade the OS
J> on their machines before they upgrade their packages.

On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 02:25:13PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote:
A> My main worry about this kind of work is that you're just steamrolling
A> through stuff that yes, should be done, but with little warning and no
A> API deprecation schedule.
A> 
A> I'd much rather see this stuff handled more formally - we mark the API
A> as deprecated and remove it in the next release.
A> 
A> I really don't like seeing steamrolling through the kernel and
A> deprecating APIs with minimal warning and having no (optional)
A> backwards compatibility implementations. That's what made us stand out
A> from Linux - we kept old APIs around as much as we could. Linux wasn't
A> terribly good at this.

One reply to both of you. The schedule is the following: we are compatible
with previous major version. The interface had changed in early
10.0-CURRENT, and during the entire 10.0-CURRENT life it has supported the
new and the old interface and this went into stable/10. When doing the change,
I have pronounced this deprecation schedule.

If anyone upgrades to next major: 9.x -> 10.x, or 10.x -> 11.x, including
package sets, then everything will be working for him.

-- 
Totus tuus, Glebius.



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