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Date:      Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:40:25 +0900
From:      "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@iDaemons.org>
To:        Akinori MUSHA <knu@iDaemons.org>, portmgr@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/Mk bsd.port.mk
Message-ID:  <864rntdns6.wl@archon.local.idaemons.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011117165902.I17600@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>
References:  <200111172135.fAHLZdP20462@freefall.freebsd.org> <866689dq3u.wl@archon.local.idaemons.org> <20011117165902.I17600@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>

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At Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:59:02 -0500,
Will Andrews wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:50:13AM +0900, Akinori MUSHA wrote:
> > You still have 72 open PR's (including 1 awaiting feedback) to be
> > dealt with...  Could you try to reduce them?
> > 
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?responsible=portmgr
> > 
> > I'd warn that you are running out of the opportunity to prove you are
> > not just lazy...
> 
> We're not going to commit stuff that affects all of ports without
> a real test.  And the only useful way to do it is on bento.  We
> are trying to get someone active privileges to manage bento.  As

Yes, I have only tested them with several ports but we can see if they
work in the next build on bento.  Why do we have to wait for infinite
time till you get the privileges when we already have an automated
build system?  I don't really see why each and every build must go
without fail.  We are not any close to the next release.  We can
handle even a total breakage of the ports tree because we have the
time and full logs that appear regularly on bento.

Change bsd.port.mk today, and see the next build tomorrow.  If any
breakage is observed, you have choices: you can either back out the
changes if the problem is so serious it takes time to fix, or fix the
changes or the ports that are affected if the problem is trivial or
local.

That's what I think is good use of the cluster, while I understand
we'll have a better way to perform a test when you have full access on
bento.

> soon as we have root privileges, we will reduce the portmgr PR
> queue as quickly as possible... perhaps by half in a week's time,
> and up to 90% in a month's time.

I've been told repeatedly that you are going to have a root access to
bento since the portmgr address was created, but nothing seems to have
moved forward yet.  Of course I'm desperately looking forward to the
day when you obtain the privileges, but I don't think you can do
nothing before then.

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