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Date:      Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:12:51 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>
Cc:        kalts@estpak.ee, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: background fsck deadlocks with ufs2 and big disk
Message-ID:  <a05200f40ba7b110c557c@[10.0.1.4]>
In-Reply-To: <200302202228.OAA03775@mina.soco.agilent.com>
References:  <200302202228.OAA03775@mina.soco.agilent.com>

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At 2:28 PM -0800 2003/02/20, Darryl Okahata wrote:

>       Did you believe that the crashes were caused by enabling softupdates on
>  an R5 vinum volume, or were the crashes unrelated to vinum/softupdates?
>  I can see how crashes unrelated to vinum/softupdates might trash vinum
>  filesystems.

	Using RAID-5 under vinum was always a somewhat tricky business 
for me, but in many cases I could get it to work reasonably well most 
of the time.  But if I enabled softupdates on that filesystem, I was 
toast.  Softupdates enabled on filesystems that were not on top of 
vinum RAID-5 logical devices seemed to be fine.

	So, the interaction that I personally witnessed was specifically 
between vinum RAID-5 and softupdates.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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