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Date:      Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:25:38 -0500
From:      Tim <Niy@extacy.homeip.net>
To:        Joshua Tinnin <gamera@pacbell.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Running own servers
Message-ID:  <41C8F742.1010903@extacy.homeip.net>
In-Reply-To: <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com>
References:  <e6ceb9d4041221192435910b4e@mail.gmail.com> <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <e6ceb9d404122119593c84182@mail.gmail.com> <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com>

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Joshua Tinnin wrote:

>On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:59:51PM -0500, RL wrote:
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>>On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:56:15 -0800, Joshua Tinnin <gamera@pacbell.net> wrote:
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>>>On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote:
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>>>>Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too
>>>>pricey) run my own servers including DNS server.  My cable provider
>>>>currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic.  How would I
>>>>go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem?
>>>>Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a
>>>>little lost. :)
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>>>>
>>>You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't
>>>think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an
>>>internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP
>>>resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from perfect,
>>>unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose,
>>>you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I
>>>have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using
>>>something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will most
>>>likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting
>>>(many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their
>>>mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can
>>>work alright for a small website server setup for fun or testing, or
>>>something that won't require complicated network protocols.
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>>I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP
>>address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that!  Now what are my other
>>options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run
>>a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :(
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>
>Well, that's news to me. I guess it was just a matter of time before
>cable providers started offering static IP. Even so, you're probably
>best off shopping around a bit, although you most likely won't find
>anything that's $40/mo., but who knows? One advantage of going with a
>smaller provider with a good reputation is that your IP won't be
>blacklisted (or there is much less likelihood of it). One problem with
>so many people running servers these days is that you don't know who to
>trust, so whole IP blocks of major ISPs end up being blacklisted, and
>not just the dynamic blocks, but this is more likely to happen if the
>ISP is careless about spam. If you're going to go through with it and
>spend the extra money, make sure to do some research and get a good IP
>with a reputable company.
>
>As for other options, you're kinda stuck with the problems of reverse
>dns, except if your IP isn't released for a long time, but then you're
>sort of gambling. Anyway, it's kind of a drag, I remember a time not
>long ago when static IPs with shell accounts on dialup were cheap, but
>now that so many people have broadband, you really have to pony up a bit
>of extra cash to get your IP out of the swamp of IP blocks full of
>zombied machines. But you can always do some testing on your own to see
>what would work for you. 
>
>- jt
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Just as an FYI, my provider (Cavtel) gives me DSL w/ a static IP, no 
PPPoE crap, AND they'll set a reverse DNS for you. Also, they don't 
really have much of an accepted use policy. I chatted with the phone 
tech (VERY knowledgeable, i was quite surprised to find) for about a 
half an hour when I called in to get my reverse DNS lookup setup. He was 
a linux user, and was considering switching to FBSD. At the end of our 
talk, he said to look for him in the FBSD mailing lists, since he'd 
probably be switching. So, if you're out there... HI! And thanks. Just 
my two cents... but options are definately out there.



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