Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:12:13 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> To: Peter Toth <peter.toth198@gmail.com>, Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org> Cc: jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool Message-ID: <54C7FF2D.2070802@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <CAEUAJxtQjUJEh%2Bz324utrY09FHTWVOwi0oegSv65%2B=-o48p66g@mail.gmail.com> References: <CACfj5vKjiQHsy9VbOKFFcrBpyr3dmbkOOxTxCYhSyZrnrjRiaQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7TyxzC0aK-ErY2EbCmTJPykk_9G7Gd=CrZ9yxQ-77PynA@mail.gmail.com> <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C7958B.40007@gmail.com> <54C7C828.4070703@erdgeist.org> <14943.128.135.70.2.1422381245.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <54C7D371.9010609@erdgeist.org> <13934.128.135.70.2.1422383293.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <CAEUAJxtctW_Ku4iQFWTKOsr=sABDtKEeKKVitFyFcxfUSp%2Bjig@mail.gmail.com> <54C7F109.2040405@erdgeist.org> <CAEUAJxtQjUJEh%2Bz324utrY09FHTWVOwi0oegSv65%2B=-o48p66g@mail.gmail.com>
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Peter Toth wrote on 01/27/2015 21:37: [...] > A lot of new technologies emerged/matured in FreeBSD in the recent years, > we have resource containers (rctl), ZFS, VIMAGE/VNET, cpuset - just to name > a few. > These are a blessing when it comes to managing/using jails. > These (awesome) technologies really set FreeBSD apart from other Unix like > operating systems - yet no integration points existed for jails. Yes. Sometimes I have a feeling that jails or some other features are unwanted children. I had PR opened for years with patche to rc.d/jail or etc/rc.subr to incorporate nice, or cpuset. And it never found it's way to the tree. In the time of my maintaining of Jails wiki page I tried to convince developers to write about their work in progress publicly in this list. But it never happend. It was almost everytime "quite hidden work and then commit". As a result we have many features in the base system, but no way to use them all together just with base startup scripts and tools. That's why we need 3rd party tools like iocage, cbsd, ezjail etc. to fix this gap. Miroslav Lachman
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