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Date:      Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:09:48 -0700
From:      Jon Rust <jpr@vcnet.com>
To:        Tony Wells <awells@journalstar.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sendmail vs qmail ?
Message-ID:  <v04210122b3bcf93e09c5@[209.239.239.22]>
In-Reply-To: <37961EC6.64E1455F@journalstar.com>
References:  <19990721062819.7683.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> <37961EC6.64E1455F@journalstar.com>

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At 2:25 PM -0500 7/21/99, Tony Wells wrote:
>Phillip Greenspun, who wrote "Database backed web sites",  seems to like
>post.office, although I haven't personally had any experience with it.
>Here's a URL with his review:
>
>	http://photo.net/wtr/post-office.html
>
>Maybe some guru out there knows more about it.

I've been using PO for ~ 3 years now, since version 1.9 to be exact. 
While their product is very stable, and runs as advertised, there are 
some major shortcomings:

  - They are very slow to get patches out. The example that I always 
use is mail relaying. When it first really hit big, PO was caught 
with it's pants down and I got hit hard. 3 times in one weekend, with 
something over 10,000 complaints accusing us of being spammers. I 
immediately contacted software.com about the security hole (relaying 
that is). They denied it was a problem at first. 6 months later they 
had a new version that could prevent relaying. 6 Months! While I 
waited, I had to set-up an internal relay (using qmail) to act as an 
SMTP firewall.

- They are very peculiar about what platforms they support. The ONLY 
Intel platform they support is NT. All UN*X styles are the major 
commercial variations that only run on their hardware (ie, 
sparc/slowaris, hpux/pa, aix/ppc, etc). I even offered to hire the 
programmers to do a port for them to BSD/OS for free (see below on 
why BSD/OS). "No." I got desperate then and offered to do the port to 
Linux, thinking the relatively large market available there would 
entice them, and I could run it under FreeBSD. "No." Hmmm... does MS 
pay them to only support NT on x86? Conspiracy theories abound. :->

    http://www.software.com/products/software.html

- Worse yet, they may kill support for your platform at any time. I 
am running the BSD/OS version, 3.1.2. They no longer support it in 
any fashion. They are now at 3.5.1 and climbing.

>P.S.
>I think it costs money, if that's a factor.

Worse yet, it won't run under FreeBSD, or any i386 based UNIX. That's 
the biggest factor IMHO.

I'm building a qmail box right now. The switch will be very painful. 
I will think long and hard before I make my biz depend on commercial, 
closed-source software again.

jon


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