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Date:      Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:58:10 -0700
From:      bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV (Bruce A. Mah)
To:        andrew@squiz.co.nz
Cc:        Marius Bendiksen <Marius.Bendiksen@scancall.no>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: UDP port 31337 
Message-ID:  <199808121458.HAA17389@stennis.ca.sandia.gov>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:12:22 %2B1200." <Pine.BSF.3.96.980812225354.21008E-100000@aniwa.sky> 

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If memory serves me right, Andrew McNaughton wrote:

[fake network services]

> It seems plausible that this might be introduced to the culture of
> internet bug reports, but it would be entirely dependent on some
> organization setting up a centralised monitoring facility.  Probably it
> would be also be dependent on a standardized attack report protocol that
> obviated the need for new software to be set up to record information on
> each new bug being reported.  Probably improbable.

I haven't seen the words "Internet" and "centralised" (for me that would be 
"centralized") in the same sentence for awhile.  :-)

Anyways, I'm just put in mind of an incident a couple years ago, when some 
nameless ISP was worried about people telnetting into their servers.  Their 
security consultant (who shall also remain nameless) set up a script on TCP 
port 23 that, when it detected a connection attempt, would automatically send 
a complaint letter to the perceived ISP of the source, as well as to CERT.  
Probably in retaliation, someone spammed USENET with promises of many 
wonderful things (I remember "a program to break PGP encryption" being one of 
them), which could all be had for free, by telnetting to a certain IP 
address...well, you get the picture.

I don't think you were suggesting this, but this story points out the need to 
be careful with completely automated attack reporting systems.

Bruce.



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