Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:19:09 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" <sean@stat.Duke.EDU> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot Message-ID: <20001117231909.C85604@stat.Duke.EDU> In-Reply-To: <200011172356.QAA78671@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:56:25PM -0700 References: <14869.49927.736257.730814@nomad.yogotech.com> <20001117162836.N62344@bonsai.knology.net> <20001116204344.B62344@bonsai.knology.net> <20001116195957.A62344@bonsai.knology.net> <200011170209.eAH297q51130@drugs.dv.isc.org> <200011172203.PAA77619@harmony.village.org> <200011172237.PAA77876@harmony.village.org> <14869.49927.736257.730814@nomad.yogotech.com> <200011172356.QAA78671@harmony.village.org>
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Warner Losh stated: : P.S. I am considering changing it back to non-polling given the : problems. But that has other problems (eg on some Compaq? machines : you want to use 3, but using 10 will wedge the machine). People- I was one of the folks who really pushed for this mostly because of the original way in which sysinstall let you pick from one of three bad choices for which irq's to use for pccards (one of those choices was 10 .. the one that was hardcoded for the pcic). I felt like I was answering the same "ed0: device allocation error" every day (since it was trying to use 10 but 10 was ... ). this has been helped recently with a higher granularity irq selection menu. The reasoning behind the polling was that while not optimal, at least, you _should_ be able to boot FreeBSD with your nic in it and install by picking irq 10 (usually free). This hang on insertion is really quite a disappointing development. I have never seen this, but I don't think that I have had the opportunity to install on any of the laptops that are problematic (newer Sony Z505s .. no problem with the R series, some Compaqs, some Dell's, missing any?). Maybe our pcic code makes some assumptions that newer laptops violate... alas, this is out of my depth. Should we include a warning sheet with the cd and instructions on how to set an irq in the Command Line Configuration boot option? Maybe the warning could include some known troublemakers? One option would be to force people to turn off their onboard serial console and force the pcic to use irq 4 :) The thing is that 4 is never (as best as that can be used in terms of pc hardware .. ha ha ha) used by another device. Of course, a lot of folks use their laptops as portable serial consoles (if you are doing this, you should be able to ...). As, a side note, the ability to turn off "plug and play os" support has been going away; although it sometimes masquerades as "supported os" with a "win95/win98/win2000" or "other" option .. not always. I do like the way the USB driver will suggest to you that you should disable it. Maybe FreeBSD out of the box should just do that. Sigh. S -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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