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Date:      Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:05:38 -0800
From:      Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>, absinthe@pobox.com, shanon loveridge <shanon_loveridge@yahoo.co.uk>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: jdk1.3.1p5
Message-ID:  <20011211230538.GA2264@gnuppy>
In-Reply-To: <15382.20310.915394.242516@caddis.yogotech.com>
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:24:22AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> I disagree, but we're all entitled to our own opinions.  We don't need
> HotSpot in order to be 'real'.

Well, not to pressure this point too much further, but the reason why
I'm doing this in the first place is because of what I've heard in the
general JVM community about the need for HotSpot under the BSDs and that
this need is critical for their operations. Under those assertions, it's
seen by those folks as critical and I happened to agree with them about
it.

The bytecode interpreter is fast, but this is server side deployment I'm
talking about and it's needed for setups that have high CPU load. The
stature and technical origins of that compiler alone are significant
enough to make it a key observable public piece in which people use to
evaluate the JVM under FreeBSD. That's ultimately what I mean by "real".

Those reason should be good enough that it should make getting native
threading and HotSpot a very high priority item.

That's all I've got to say on the subject. ;-)

bill


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