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Date:      Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:50:03 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   : cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make arch.c buf.c compat.c cond.c dir.c for.c hash.c job.c main.c make.c parse.c str.c suff.c targ.c util.c var.c
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On Tuesday, 11 July 2000 at 23:17:16 -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
>>> And if you've got a good way of working out how to wrap quoted text, go
>>> ahead and fill the rest of us in on it. 8)
>>
>> Emacs has a line wrap macro which understands quoted text.  Taking
>> Fred's paragraph above, it makes this out of it:
>>
>>>>>   I can try to wrap, but I'd have to do so by hand.  But wrapping
>>>>> text at the sender's end is not the right thing.  Your mail client
>>>>> is broken, as it should wrap for you.  You might try fixing that
>>>>> rather than expecting everyone to hard-wrap text for you.  Some of
>>>>> us like letting our clients wrap the text for us as we change the
>>>>> window size.
>>
>> That's m-q when running in letter mode (I think).
>
> Yeah, I used to use it.  It does disastrous things with nonstandard or
> broken nested quoting.

Yes, it needs a little help with broken text.

> The *only* right thing to do is display the message
> *as*the*sender*formatted*it*.

For originals, sure.  We're not debating that.  But what about
quotations?  It's your decision what you quote, not the sender's.  Do
you object to the quote of the following paragraph?

> No other medium assumes that the *reader* makes the formatting
> decisions - markup languages like HTML are designed for express
> purpose of allowing the *writer* to distinguish between the
> formatting elements that must be under writer control and those that
> the reader can adjust.

Did you use the D word?  I can't see much in the way of design in
HTML.  It just sort of happened.

Greg
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