Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden <jamie@itribe.net> To: Aled Morris <aledm@routers.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATTN Emacs users; new Zile release Message-ID: <199709121611.MAA18193@gatekeeper.itribe.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970912163258.13202A-100000@uk.ns.eu.org>
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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Aled Morris wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > Does anyone here actually get the point that a newbie can't use emacs > > anymore than they can use vi? I hate ee as much as the rest of you, but > > it's small, and it tells the newbie which keys do what, which vi and emacs > > don't do. > > I get the point entirely - my point is that ee is OK for newbies, > especially with those features you describe, but it doesn't have to > reinvent keymapping! Emacs "C-e" for EOL, "C-a" for BOL are just fine. > Ee even supports these mappings, BUT my complaint is that the bogus ones are > the default. > > Aled And my point is: Hoe the hell is a newbie supposed to know emacs key bindings? They are documented internally in emacs, assuming you know that M- means meta, and that meta is <alt>, etc. I don't like ee, I use vi almost exclusively, with some emacs for large jobs with multiple files, but I wouldn't expect a new user to know how to use either of them. Jamie Bowden System Administrator, iTRiBE.net Abusenet: The Misinformation Superhighway
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