Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 14:01:21 -0600 From: Paul <pmcnary@cameron.net> To: pathiaki2 <pathiaki2@yahoo.com>, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Helping out with JDK 9 on BSD Message-ID: <56B65111.6050700@cameron.net> In-Reply-To: <56B64BB7.8030908@yahoo.com> References: <56ADE7D4.8020107@oracle.com> <56ADE943.6020103@oracle.com> <8B9ACABA-F9B2-4288-9DB5-CA843DE48C34@getsnappy.com> <20160203034053.GA36170@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <56B456FB.4040707@oracle.com> <56B64BB7.8030908@yahoo.com>
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+1 On 2/6/2016 1:38 PM, pathiaki2 via freebsd-java wrote: > and getting it to pass the test suite would be very much appreciated > by a lot of us. There's some serious java applications that are very > useful out there that used to work the OpenJDK port for FreeBSD but no > longer. > > I mention this as I wanted to create a port for OpenNMS as it is > truly, IMHO, more advanced than most other enterprise monitoring systems. > > I created a page on how easy it is to setup with their own installer, > but, despite the stabilization of OJDK 8, instead of crashing in less > than two hours, it will crash in a little over 24 now. :-( > > https://www.opennms.org/wiki/Installing_on_FreeBSD_10.x_with_OpenJDK > > It's coming up on a year, I've now verified the issue still exists > with OpenNMS 1.17.x . It would be very much appreciated to get the > OpenJDK core figured out as something just goes South. I'm willing to > do builds and produce cores as needed, but the fact this runs fine on > Linux using Oracle JDK and OpenJDK, just kind of irks me as FreeBSD is > just so tight regarding everything else. > > Thank you all for your efforts and from all the people who want to see > OpenNMS running native on FreeBSD. > > P. > > On 02/05/2016 03:02, Magnus Ihse Bursie wrote: >> On 2016-02-03 04:40, Greg Lewis wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 06:57:26AM -0800, Brian Gardner wrote: >>>> I???m interested in helping. I ported openjdk6 to freebsd and also >>>> helped out with openjdk8. >>>> >>>> Brian Gardner >>> I'd love to see as much of these changes get into the jdk9 >>> mainline. My time >>> is really limited for the next couple of weeks though. If it would >>> help you >>> or Magnus to use the bsd-port repo to stage changes then that would be >>> great too. Let me do a merge to make sure it is up to date with >>> mainline. >>> Notionally we'd have to do a vote to get you both access I think? >>> But I >>> can shepherd changes in if that will help with sharing them. >> To make Brian and me committers on the bsd-port project will require >> a community vote with a 2 weeks voting time, yes. Unless Brian >> already is an OpenJDK Author (that is, has an OpenJDK account), >> getting the account created after the vote, has in the past been a >> long wait for the OpenJDK ops to do their thing as well. :( >> >> So the quickest and easiest way, at least if we're just talking a few >> number of patches, is that you shepherd them in. >> >>> >>> FWIW, in terms of taking responsibility, I've been regularly >>> updating the >>> repos for jdk8 and jdk7 for a couple of years. I'm happy to keep jdk9 >>> building if that is what is being looked for there and also port >>> more of >>> the BSD changes for jdk8 as appropriate. >> >> I think "regularly building" is kind of the basic they're looking for >> here, and maybe such a promise is good enough to get my build changes >> into the mainline. >> >> Apparently the FreeBSD foundation has a license to use the official >> TCK test suite. Getting a port to completely pass the TCK is likely >> to be quite some work, but if it does it can be integrated as a core >> supported platform in the JDK9 mainline (and then, automatically, in >> future versions of the JDK). Maybe it's not even a requirement to >> pass the full TCK for a community effort. Perhaps it's fine to just >> run the TCK sort-of regularly and tracking the results so that the >> number of failures does not drastically increase, and having some >> kind of long term goal/vision of having zero TCK failures. But I'm >> not sure about these things. We should probably involve Dalibor Topic >> in that discussion. >> >> /Magnus >> >>> >>> - Greg >>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 3:00 AM, Magnus Ihse Bursie >>>>> <magnus.ihse.bursie@oracle.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-01-31 11:54, Magnus Ihse Bursie wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> [TL;DR: I'm offering patches to compile JDK 9 on FreeBSD, but >>>>>> it's not clear where to put them, or how.] >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm working at Oracle on the OpenJDK build team and is >>>>>> responsible for large parts of the build system of OpenJDK. >>>>>> Lately, I've been playing around with FreeBSD (and other BSDs) in >>>>>> my free time, and I've written a patch that will add build system >>>>>> support for FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD in JDK 9 (tracked in >>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8147795). >>>>>> >>>>>> I started writing this when I realized that the jdk9 branch in >>>>>> the OpenJDK bsd-port repository did not contain any BSD-specific >>>>>> changes at all, and the old JDK 8 changes will not readily be >>>>>> portable, due to major changes in the build system between JDK 8 >>>>>> and JDK 9. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought it would be a no-brainer to integrate these changes >>>>>> into the JDK 9 mainline, so they would be in place for whenever >>>>>> you guys would start to attack porting the code base. However, >>>>>> some of my collegues thought otherwise. The end result, I think, >>>>>> is that they wanted to see someone (not necessarily a company, >>>>>> the FreeBSD organisation for instance seemed to be okay), to step >>>>>> forward and say "we take responsibility for the BSD port", and >>>>>> give some kind of commitment to actually use these build changes >>>>>> in producing a viable port. You can read the mail conversation >>>>>> here: >>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/build-dev/2016-January/016421.html >>>>> I forgot to add that I'm willing to help with build issues for the >>>>> BSD port, as far as my (like everybode else's) limited free time >>>>> allows me. Unfortunately, I'm still a noob at BSD internals and >>>>> can't really help with much apart from that. >>>>> >>>>> /Magnus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> An alternative to pushing this code into the JDK 9 mainline is of >>>>>> course to push it to the bsd-port/jdk9 repo (given that the >>>>>> owners of that repo approves), but that seems like a less >>>>>> favourable solution. Having the code in the mainline does not >>>>>> mean that it gets tested automatically, but it means that it will >>>>>> be part of e.g. refactoring, that would otherwise break a >>>>>> downstream patchset. >>>>>> >>>>>> I cc:ed this conversation to the bsd-port-dev@openjdk.java.net >>>>>> mailing list, but never got any kind of official response there. >>>>>> Since this list seems more active, I'm trying here instead. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I'm offering two patches here, one that applies to the build >>>>>> system, is nice and clean, and possible to integrate into JDK 9 >>>>>> mainline, if my collegues are convinced that someone is backing >>>>>> up the BSD port. And there's a second patch, which fixes broken >>>>>> C/C++/Java code and results in a product that can at least run >>>>>> "javac HelloWorld", but this is not yet clean enough for >>>>>> integration anywere, at least not the JDK 9 mainline. (I don't >>>>>> know enough of the BSD internals to fix all problems, so there's >>>>>> some "#if 0" code here and there.) >>>>>> >>>>>> /Magnus >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>> "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-java@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-java@freebsd.org> mailing >>>>> list >>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >>>>> <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java>; >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>>> <mailto:freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >
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