Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:20:23 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Because the government of EUA finances BSD communities in the development of imperative technologies for intelligence and the Department of Defense (DARPA)? Message-ID: <53C17C67.9010707@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20140710111525.926d5b8b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <CAK_6RwcEe8%2Bmqsfq42=83qpYrEvz13YMguuVCZDtnzsoqfW0aA@mail.gmail.com> <20140709212420.8965b51d.freebsd@edvax.de> <CAK_6Rwek0vzYYWgd8sPVAfHQ-ttv%2Bek32H2%2Bz-Es=yZ=bZ_gAg@mail.gmail.com> <20140710111525.926d5b8b.freebsd@edvax.de>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --I8tGCG8i3AUwdsMSqdqjg89mkrO0jhMbQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/07/2014 10:15, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:51:33 -0300, fran=E7ai s wrote: >> > 2014-07-09 16:24 GMT-03:00, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>: >>> > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:03:53 -0300, fran=E7ai s wrote: >>>> > >> Because 90% of open source projects created within Google are B= SD >>>> > >> license? >>> > > Is this per number of projects, per LOC or where does this >>> > > value come from? Yes, Google is a big contributor, but assuming >>> > > that 90% of the (existing?) open source projects has been >>> > > created _by_ Google (or within Google) doesn't look right. >>> > > Can you provide a source for that number? >> > This number comes from a subject posted on FUG-BR ( Group Brazilian = of >> > Users FreeBSD) by a university teacher that perhaps remains FreeBS= D >> > developer, but it is written in Portuguese from Brazil. > In my opinion, it doesn't seem to be true. Most BSDs are being > developed and maintained by projects that are not part of Google, > especially FreeBSD and OpenBSD share few relations to Google and > can hardly be called "parts of Google". It certainly isn't the case that Google corporately has any particular interest in developing code solely for the FreeBSD project. Google certainly does support FreeBSD by eg. sponsoring conferences -- they like open source development projects like FreeBSD and many others for two reasons: such projects are an excellent source of the sort of development talent that Google has a seemingly insatiable appetite for employing[*], and secondly, because such projects often result in innovative new web based services or improvements in the general internet infrastructure[+]: they are "good for the Internet", and what is good for the Internet is good for Google. However, this is somewhat beside the OP's point: most open source projects developed within Google use the BSD-ish Apache source license. The exceptions are for things like modifications to the Linux kernel where there is a pre-existing requirement for different licensing. This does not imply anything about Google's intentions with respect to any of the *BSD projects or to Linux. It certainly doesn't mean they are going to throw away their Linux based standard OS on all their millions of servers and replace it with something BSD-ish. It's simply down to their corporate preference for the license itself. Although it does say something good about BSD-style licensing that a company that has been aggressively hiring the very best and cleverest people it can find should prefer it. Cheers, Matthew [*] There are several active FreeBSD developers that are also Google employees, and not a few more Google people who used to be. [+] Capsicum is a case in point here. This is very much a project originated and driven by FreeBSD people, but something that interests Google a great deal, which has resulted in their sponsoring research at Cambridge University and working to port Capsicum to Linux. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --I8tGCG8i3AUwdsMSqdqjg89mkrO0jhMbQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTwXxuXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATMqoP/j3ERTCYFXUuAQMQulSVCFTb mKjW//u+hdXV+x8KMjfiQmhXVkPTVn1cRv3BDvBwI5VQ9Py0Y7bUNJzX1YkygBfA IVCPkiklJ1cA/PFVsUBJN4tGwGGVRUgGSGU3priPXqPlC5SAs+OfDehjtbPL6jj3 6jNQQ5yiy3/kWJBrBTgGcU+EBp0Cc9LmtQe+bgNUO/IUwMLeKAze9SZZlQ/5Nef6 P2kyldY6dMxdVak0dEEk2tksEx48Xv8WZkGE86mvB8FGQLsB9FaqxAxGNrvAaAo1 fCf9lkyo9sLygXhnPZgcCbYcAf0Qa5DZDGj4o5rN06TRvvg2DbQ5XcpQimrmPSx2 4yhmkRHcGJiiR4u4pUwOmu4EgiGyCJsvI/U8nbC+FoPmfnx6PqxXyQK6mWuuce7J hZfNqyynbSmq2pIZyqTGxkWg9QI1iE0XUi7i9ekNV8QziDqjBbv9J0gMToRIxEHw Wqnux6Uw5fLP12Q77qly96hr1EbPi0ggzc/8C066gbWNHzC8nFQ072k0AdRYUqCY 8imoBL8P0IFX9GTDW/mOk8dtm7UvcdO5FQHa4VpMrU7erKl9nohwFlpZbA/5cm17 BFPDbzyjW+QwtKguJcIKtyt3fhuQo0ntXArFfChtm4EPXOkRgEXraBvpQHW8nKWU w9VhRfT/NtvjEsHLD6wG =1qm8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --I8tGCG8i3AUwdsMSqdqjg89mkrO0jhMbQ--
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