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Date:      Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:49:53 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>
To:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@portaone.com>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HostRaid support on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <40D99891.20300@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <40D997A4.9050900@portaone.com>
References:  <5.2.1.1.0.20040621135534.068fef40@server01.chassis00.xsnetworks.net> <40D7E0B7.1000905@portaone.com> <40D8D217.5000808@freebsd.org> <40D95FDC.9060802@portaone.com> <xzpoenanz2t.fsf@dwp.des.no> <40D997A4.9050900@portaone.com>

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Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> 
>> Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@portaone.com> writes:
>>
>>> Well, my knowelege about internals of software RAID controllers is
>>> quite limited, but as long as I know they are no more than BIOS with
>>> UI for setting up RAIDs and interface to main BIOS that hides internal
>>> RAID structure allowing to boot off the RAID. Also they provide some
>>> persistent storage for RAID configuration, I assume either in some
>>> controller's NVRAM or on the HDDs.
>>
>>
>>
>> The configuration is always stored on-disk, otherwise it wouldn't be
>> possible to recover from controller failure.
>>
>>
>>> Therefore, the same set of GEOM
>>> RAID modules can work with different software RAID controllers (SCSI,
>>> ATA, SATA etc) if there will be a standard way to extract this info
>>> from the controller's driver, and present it in some common
>>> format. That's what I am talking about.
>>
>>
>>
>> You're kicking down open doors.  This problem has already been solved
>> for Vinum, which is conceptually identical from a GEOM point of view.
> 
> 
> Nah. As I said there should be some standard way to extract RAID 
> configuration info out of controller's driver in controller-independent 
> format.
> 
> -Maxim
> 

Correct, and vinum lacks this.  My goal with RAIDframe was to provide
this, but I had to abandon it due to lack of time.

Scott



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