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Date:      Wed, 7 Jul 2004 06:41:34 -0000 (GMT)
From:      Nicolas =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E9rard_Nault?= <nicobn@quebecbsd.org>
To:        "Eitarou Kamo" <e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Article on Sun's DTrace
Message-ID:  <4533.24.203.207.162.1089182494.squirrel@webmail.north-zone.net>
In-Reply-To: <40EB9A46.2050409@trio.plala.or.jp>
References:   <20040706120130.3DF9816A57D@hub.freebsd.org><20040706101140.T92636@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <40EB9A46.2050409@trio.plala.or.jp>

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> FreeBSD has good features such as jail, chroot e.t.c. which can controll
> process or resources in parallel. So you need not port DTrace entirely.

I think the control of ressources in a jail is very limited right now. I
don't know if some work in that direction is in progress but it would be a
great project for the future.

> You can implement DTrace like one from scratch. Using legacy system
> sometimes makes new system feature. I would rather expect new one than
> porting. DTrace is one of example, I think. You may be able to fork new
> debug
> process in parallel in the future. If I dare name it, It's "B(SD)Trace"?
> But it's up to
> your effort. DTrace is a pioneer work. And for the people like me who
> bothers
> to put the debug lines in kernel this must be powerful tool.

Dtrace is (seems, at least) to be a very powerful tool. Eventual coders
could/should get their inspiration out of the work of Sun engineers. But
remember, the volunteers of the FreeBSD project aren't paid to do what
they do. 2 years and 3 full-time engineers were needed to accomplish
Dtrace so I think seeing a similar utility in the near future for FreeBSD
is very hopeless.

-- 
Nicolas Bérard Nault (nicobn@quebecbsd.org)
http://www.quebecbsd.org
http://www.xeatech.net
http://staff.xeatech.net/nicobn

"Je ne sais pas avec quelles armes se combattra la troisième guerre
mondiale mais je peux vous assurer que la quatrième se combattra avec des
pierres et des bâtons." -- Albert Einstein.



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