Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:19:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, hw <hw@gc-24.de> Subject: Re: Firefox or what? Message-ID: <768650735.4676355.1565695184448@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de> References: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
Hi, Sadly, I don't believe you to be technically astute in that you seem to hav= e issues with everything that work 'out of the box' in FreeBSD.=C2=A0 I lov= e FreeBSD for exactly what it is:=C2=A0 highly stable, highly functional, p= roperly engineered, with very few 'issues' especially all the ones that you= describe as 'BAD'.=C2=A0 It's strange that Apple, NetApp, Isilon, Sony, et= c who I consider some pretty technically astute corporations, decided to go= in the direction of FreeBSD, due to the reasons I list above, and don't ha= ve these same issues.=C2=A0 I believe you need to troubleshoot what YOU are= doing wrong.=C2=A0 Or, again, please do uninstall FreeBSD because you seem= to be a troll and Linux fanboy. I make my living contracting out on CentOS and RHEL.=C2=A0 Quite frankly, t= hey are pathetic.=C2=A0 I'm happy they are so pathetic in that if it was Fr= eeBSD, it would probably take me half the time to build, configure, deploy = and get various apps working.=C2=A0 Also, the ongoing patching of everythin= g?=C2=A0 Really?=C2=A0 How many bugs are found in their OS in a year? 200+= =C2=A0 Windows, 400+?=C2=A0 FreeBSD < 20.=C2=A0=20 Oh, let me guess, so few bugs because 'no one uses it'?=C2=A0 Yeah, heard t= hat before. Apologies to the list, but this guy's has been taking up serious bandwidth = for the last two weeks on non-existent issues.=C2=A0 He makes a statement a= bout something not working and 5-10 respond 'works for me'.=C2=A0 That's th= e pattern of a troll.=C2=A0 I urge everyone to please stop responding unles= s he can come up with specific details on how he built things, what he did,= etc.=C2=A0 I don't believe anyone who can read could ever have these probl= ems unless there's a scar on his head or a lobotomy puncture near his eye. P. On Monday, August 12, 2019, 11:38:10 AM EDT, hw <hw@gc-24.de> wrote: = =20 =20 Hi, does any of the Firefox versions that can be installed with pkg actually work?=C2=A0 Firefix continues to freeze, crash, being unable to remember its settings, to not show up at all when starting it other than in the process list, and it usually can't be killed even with kill -9. If Firefox is incompatible with FreeBSD, what's the alternative? _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 13 11:31:05 2019 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E79AAC2E3 for <freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org>; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from outbound1f.eu.mailhop.org (outbound1f.eu.mailhop.org [52.28.59.28]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4679Wr0vxHz3FHg for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1565695861; cv=none; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; b=KCmdR60cfEt6MSkJJ8blTT7I8qNKqEBMm49jl3M1uw6L72DF6tHhkInnpAg2l0c0A/kggY0cFs081 YuInzQi78zKG7Fl+J2IRJIsnYx8u5/FjgQ5N6418xFjrn9WsWugRcCCvVNmHEFheslql3Bnq8YXWTe ZK555jmBIxjwaq8EtCqsiduczJNOM+vJetQfnPTu+y2aFvLIQ9rdmjzMx3RrwdsHcgEnAPUc4tS5Ws UZLOGe1daSFVtgNiPob9pk8TnXg6lYB+cMF9ou3+QuRLxARR4Qu17TGTsLsoLAB1JcB+kA69f3Gg17 YXeRctmBzM18pe4j82xNGyXuVoLBP8g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:mime-version:date: message-id:from:references:cc:to:subject:dkim-signature:from; bh=ZvvwJnB6evSLA7+yencWv6+SVBMgvnW95nNBDRsr84A=; b=PxLBmqTheOsDPvFRzCrkT916+dO7JEnQowfyk3W8P3teyCbWbjPI7q/0Z1LNEh1U2SKobYbepAqOx UXdda9Gz/AsuLhTHzyQ4vI+yWNHZLqU/aYYT/sJHEjzZDCgjE+HbrCLW+ZY00/s51GXEdV0kdSlUBZ GyS2ABUHnAY50MSoudTMgd0GWmpOKAmNAeqt+lbUDeqIBx24YGDvMnHGLfyuHp9zuSziTMtmCYioHH JjP4FgQztIaRFnqIzjW7elkEb7icFxtLGJdKmMRYIQCZzn6TLpaE686jeMbb7zk42NDx5fznQe5lHl VBF1mpFQ4zti9g0lDoxM8VnR+fvwIxg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; outbound2.eu.mailhop.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=hedeland.org smtp.remote-ip=81.228.157.209; dmarc=none header.from=hedeland.org; arc=none header.oldest-pass=0; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=dkim-high; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:mime-version:date: message-id:from:references:cc:to:subject:from; bh=ZvvwJnB6evSLA7+yencWv6+SVBMgvnW95nNBDRsr84A=; b=cPenPrVJJv6QERXgV2I6Dlx7sK82hZa1nqy5wF/v9tW9pAzB1yzeBxLyKkWLi/g0GVnOT4CgsQlp8 bPI18cXE8lbeFCu+s7PMeWZWksYmPAhLkstOd9hI23qmHPxqXWN5ZnJlqkfoXqumBW7a/agTfksP2G hxL8UN27nV6wyhvWTsoo9MPqyGoyCnAN14457N/BnTn4hRe1duEalZkt56AGCUvO9pEe7GpFFIfk6u b4apZV8XDc78gViGBabTJRbM0Xapp++rSiGjTDkjAHp7Qhtca0YqmFJ3bOxu3TQjAWOS/L+feq8A8C dzLuMcqwgn3y2FM6Jn1+9KNZSi4soAg== X-MHO-RoutePath: cGVyaGVkZWxhbmQ= X-MHO-User: d1e88ad2-bdbd-11e9-a203-f5e3bb5d0a28 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 81.228.157.209 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from hedeland.org (unknown [81.228.157.209]) by outbound2.eu.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id d1e88ad2-bdbd-11e9-a203-f5e3bb5d0a28; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x7DBUvWt032909 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:30:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: USB stick for msdosfs To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: MJ <mafsys1234@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190810083139.GA3606@c720-r342378> <0ce32b01-8fd1-211b-5ef4-43ffa2b843cc@gmail.com> <CAGLDxTVOCOPJ0xX_ihCC=02NLjV+=eB2iBD8BrJ2AhOoeMLcuw@mail.gmail.com> <20190811165101.7b2037de.freebsd@edvax.de> <7c0c1ea9-3834-ccf6-2890-8b1faf16b9e0@gmail.com> <20190812153305.6d53d7e8.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> Message-ID: <cab43bcd-b1e3-80fd-edd3-ce0fd2da6085@hedeland.org> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:30:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190812153305.6d53d7e8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4679Wr0vxHz3FHg X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=outbound.mailhop.org header.s=dkim-high header.b=cPenPrVJ; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 52.28.59.28) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.53 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[outbound.mailhop.org:s=dkim-high]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[outbound.mailhop.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[28.59.28.52.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.20.0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.25)[ipnet: 52.28.0.0/16(-4.86), asn: 16509(-1.35), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.28.0.0/16, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:31:05 -0000 On 2019-08-12 15:33, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:41:01 +1000, MJ wrote: >> What? So you propose typing 4 characters rather than three? Heathen. >> >> In unix systems, brevity is the king. >> >> :-) > > Depends on your language and keyboard layout. On a german > keyboard, for a \, you need Alt Gr + ß?\, but ' is more > convenient: Shift + #'. Keep your fingers healthy. ;-) On the other hand, in [t]csh (FreeBSD standard, right?:-) ' does *not* quote !, i.e. you *have* to use \: pluto 1> echo '!11' 11: Event not found. pluto 2> echo \!11 !11 So I guess using \ could at least be considered "safer" or "more portable"... --Per Hedeland
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?768650735.4676355.1565695184448>