Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:27:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org> To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Mitsuru IWASAKI <iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apmd for FreeBSD Message-ID: <199906150327.VAA86182@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:19:28 PDT." <19990614141928.A44318@nuxi.com> References: <19990614141928.A44318@nuxi.com> <199906101257.VAA16619@tasogare.imasy.or.jp>
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In message <19990614141928.A44318@nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes: : I will commit to importing things like ``apmd'' if they are shown to work : in -CURRENT and do not affect non-laptop machines. Feel free to wait for this to be incorporated into -current before you try it. However, it is useful today to have the PAO folks doing their experimentation in 3.x based systems. It makes sense for them to do experimentation where they have a confortable base. He can hardly be faulted for picking a stable base when there is so much chaos in the current -current. The new-bus integration has been somewhat disruptive to the -current sources from both a technical as well as a political point of view. The new-bus/newconfig rift has been a very hot issue for hackers in the Japanese FreeBSD community. iwasaki-san's choice to implement things on the 3.x + PAO neatly avoids all of those issues until they were settled. From what I've seen of iwasaki-san's work, there is little to no impact to non-laptop machines. It is a good start and an excellent prototype. There has been talk for doing a future "power management" subsystem which could be built over apm or over ahcp or whatever other things that may be on the horizon. It was my understanding that apmd would be the first step of doing that and that it was done with the understanding that it might be just a prototype in the end. Finally, I don't think that it is approrpiate for you, or anybody else to come down so hard on someone becausethey chose to do their first implementation in a stable version of FreeBSD. There are many examples in the past that were done first in -stable and then ported to -current after they stablized. While they were first integrated into -current, but much work were done in -stable. Wanrer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message
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