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Date:      Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:11:51 -0400
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        "Chad R. Larson" <chad@DCFinc.com>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE?
Message-ID:  <p05101001b790838a9411@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <20010802190716.A7770@freeway.dcfinc.com>
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At 7:07 PM -0700 8/2/01, Chad R. Larson wrote:
>On Fri, Aug 03, 2001, Andrew Boothman wrote:
>  > I prefer -SECURITY, because it makes it clear this is the
>  > branch dedicated to security fixes and nothing else.
>
>Yes, but then the newbies would think this was some special
>release with extra security features.  And complain when they
>get rooted.  We go through "why isn't -STABLE really stable"
>three or four times per year.
>
>I'd rather a tag that didn't imply some kind of promise.
>
>But I agree, it should be something other than -RELEASE.

I agree it should change, and should not be -SECURITY or -SECURE.
In the interest of keeping it simple and yet nondescript, I would
prefer something like  -RELEASE+  or  -RELEASE-PLUS

While something like BEET or RUTABAGA is also nondescript, I think
that's a little too silly for this branch.  I know several sysadmin's
who have been very happy to have this branch around.  I could see
changing the *stable* branch to a name like beet, rutabaga, or maybe
rawcarrot (which is then "cooked" for release... :-).  Maybe that
would finally get rid of the confusion of people who read too much
into the name "stable".

For that matter, perhaps we should name the "security-fixes" branch
as -stable, and then change the branch we currently call stable to
be -kitchen, and change -current to be -frontier or -scarymovie.

[really, any naming scheme is fine by me personally.  I'd just like
to see if we could come up with something so we didn't have to debate
some branch-name every three or four months.  So, I hope that by
tossing several disparate ideas out, maybe something will make sense.
Note: 'disparate', not 'desperate' :-) ]

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Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu

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