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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:22:51 +0200 (SAT)
From:      John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>
To:        sobomax@FreeBSD.org (Maxim Sobolev)
Cc:        jhb@FreeBSD.org (John Baldwin), cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/automake Makefile distinfo pkg-plist
Message-ID:  <200110260622.f9Q6Mp307327@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <3BD7C115.63F75C69@FreeBSD.org> from Maxim Sobolev at "Oct 25, 2001 10:36:53 am"

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> > 
> > Errm, IMO, it would make more sense to do this in the way David proposed letting
> > the auto* ports take on the new version and making the auto*XX ports use the old
> > one, then just fix any breakages that come up.  Doesn't bento do automated
> > builds of the packages?  Just commit the changes, let the builds go through,
> > and fix the errors that pop up.  We don't have a release real soon, so it
> > should be livable.
> 
> Are you going to reply to those zillion "hey port XX broke
> because of auto*" PR, which will surely pop up if we do as
> you suggest? One of the strengths of the ports system is
> that in past such drive-by commits were carefully avoided
> and I don't think that it is a good idea to break this
> tradition and piss-off the users, especially considering
> that this problem could be resolved in a less destructive
> way.

How much of this "breakage" is truth and how much FUD? Here is a piece
from the autoconf-2.52 docs:

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15.6 Upgrading From Version 2.13

The introduction of the previous section (see section 15.5 Upgrading From
Version 1) perfectly suits this section...

Autoconf version 2.50 is mostly backward compatible with version 2.13.
However, it introduces better ways to do some things, and doesn't
support some of the ugly things in version 2.13.  So, depending on how
sophisticated your `configure.ac' files are, you might have to do
some manual work in order to upgrade to version 2.50.  This chapter points
out some problems to watch for when upgrading.  Also, perhaps
your configure scripts could benefit from some of the new
features in version 2.50; the changes are summarized in the file
`NEWS' in the Autoconf distribution.

15.6.1 Changed Quotation - Broken code which used to work
15.6.2 New Macros - Interaction with foreign macros

###########################

John
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John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za

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