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Date:      Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:29:41 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: So I whip out a FTDI-based multiport Serial USB Adapter....
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On 2/4/2013 4:00 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 16:31 -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 14:58 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
>>>> On 2/4/2013 2:06 PM, Ian Lepore wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 12:57 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
>>>>>> ... and plug it into FreeBSD 9.1-Stable with the rev ID FreeBSD
>>>>>> 9.1-STABLE #16 r244942
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it returns....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ugen4.4: <vendor 0x0409> at usbus4
>>>>>> uhub6: <vendor 0x0409 product 0x0050, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 4>
>>>>>> on usbus4
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 1 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 2 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 3 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 4 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 5 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 6 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub_attach: port 7 power on failed, USB_ERR_STALLED
>>>>>> uhub6: 7 ports with 7 removable, self powered
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yuck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last time it was working was on a FreeBSD 7 box (yeah, I know,
>>>>>> rather old) but I never had problems there.  And it appears that all of
>>>>>> the device declarations that I used to have to put in the kernel as
>>>>>> non-standard stuff are now in GENERIC, so I would expect it to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideas as to what may have gotten hosed up here?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Those messages all seem to be related to a hub. Vendor ID 0x0409 is NEC.
>>>>>
>>>>> FTDI's vendor ID is 0x0403, and FTDI stuff works fine in FreeBSD 9 and
>>>>> 10; I use it all the time.  Sometimes aftermarket vendors who use FTDI's
>>>>> parts program different vendor/product info and IDs have to be added to
>>>>> code to recognize them, that's the only trouble one usually encounters.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Ian
>>>> Well, that sorta kinda worked. 
>>>>
>>>> Except that it still is identifying it as a hub too, and the two collide
>>>> and crash the stack.
>>>>
>>>> But I can't find anything that is looking at the PID (0x0050) or the
>>>> definition (HUB_0050) anywhere in the code. 
>>>>
>>>> I'll go pull the NEC defs and set up something else instead of simply
>>>> adding it to the FTDI probe list.
>>>>
>>> It seems to me you have a problem with a hub (perhaps the root hub or a
>>> motherboard hub if you don't have an external one) and this has nothing
>>> to do with the ftdi device at all.
>> I assume we're talking about a multi-port usb to serial adapter, correct?
>>
>> If so, they generally do have a hub included in the device.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> ugen1.3: <vendor 0x0409> at usbus1
>> uhub4: <vendor 0x0409 product 0x0050, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3> on usbus1
>> uhub4: 7 ports with 7 removable, self powered
>>
>> Then the individual ports look like this:
>>
>> ugen1.4: <FTDI> at usbus1
>> uftdi0: <FT232R USB UART> on usbus1
>> ugen1.5: <FTDI> at usbus1
>> uftdi1: <FT232R USB UART> on usbus1
>> (etc.)
>>
>> We use these for serial console ports, they're (relatively) cheap and have generally been well supported.
>>
>> The above info is from an 8.3 box.
>>
>> Just wanted to clarify that there is likely a hub in the serial box Karl is working with…
>>
>> Charles
> Oh, interesting.  The biggest ftdi dongle I have is 4 ports, using the
> ftdi 4232 chip.  I guess to get more ports than that, folks are now
> using an internal hub and multiple ftdi chips.
>
> So for some reason there's a problem with the hub, and that's probably
> preventing it from getting as far as seeing the ftdi parts that are
> downstream of that.
>
> -- Ian
>

Ah, well then yuck.

Will put things back where they were and play some more -- I'll probe
this with the other box and see if I can find the difference.

-- 
-- Karl Denninger
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