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Date:      Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:38:57 +0200
From:      Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>
To:        Ed Flecko <edflecko@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Correct syntax of "supfile" to keep ports upgraded?
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:12:36AM -0700, Ed Flecko wrote:
> Thank you Roland; I didn't know portsnap is part of the base install.
>=20
> :-)
>=20
> >From a book that I have (Absolute FreeBSD - 2nd Edition), it says"
>=20
> PORTSNAP VS. CSUP
> Use either portsnap(8) or csup(1) to update the Ports Collection, but
> not both.

Correct.

> The two tools are incompatible.=20

I'd say using both is useless, but OK.

> csup is most useful if you are tracking
> -stable or -current, while portsnap is best for production systems where =
you
> use binary updates.=20

This is misleading, IMHO. Yes, csup is best for tracking the system source,=
 but
that has nothing to do with ports. Portsnap is much faster than csup for po=
rts,
regardless if you are using packages or if you compile everything yourself!

One thing to keep in mind is that "The Ports Collection supports the latest
release on the FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches." (quoting from
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/). Maybe this is what the author is referring =
to?
If so I think it poorly worded.

What I would suggest is:

  * portsnap for keeping the ports tree updated
  * csup for updating the FreeBSD sources
  * portmaster for upgrading installed ports (by compiling from source)

Roland
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R.F.Smith                                   http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/
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