Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:27:15 -0600 From: Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: Chris Martino <chrismar@peanut.readington.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Please Add a Veterans Ring of Honor Link" Message-ID: <19981210002715.A7349@quark.feynman.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981210005907.2833A-100000@peanut.readington.com>; from Chris Martino on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 01:01:46AM -0500 References: <4.1.19981209213746.009f1ee0@mail-r> <Pine.BSF.3.96.981210005907.2833A-100000@peanut.readington.com>
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On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 01:01:46AM -0500, Chris Martino wrote: > So, they give an 800# right? So all the people in the US call the 800# on I am a vet and am normally sympathetic to vet causes especially where combat is involved. However, after a visit to their web-page, I got the feeling that something doesn't ring true. Read, it appears to be a money making scheme. So phone away, unless they can convince that their cause is real. BTW, I sent them a message to that effect. Frank > the VetRing's dime. What do we say when we call? Just spend 5 or 10 > minutes complaing about their spam and how they didn't follow the rules > you pointed out. > > They'll be sorry they included their 800# in there. This is something I > practice w/ and spam I get that includes a toll free number, and not very > many do. So, you have to take the opprutunity when it arises... :-) > > Chris > > On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Ludwig Pummer wrote: > > > That first paragraph piqued my interest. So I investigated (I followed the > > link they gave). The important part of that bill (S.771): > > > > ----- > > (2) PLACEMENT- > > (A) ADVERTISEMENT- The information specified in subparagraph (A) of > > paragraph(3) shall appear as the first word of the subject line of > > the electronic mail message without any prior text or symbol. > > (B) OTHER INFORMATION- The information specified in subparagraph (B) of > > that paragraph shall appear prominently in the body of the message. > > (3) COVERED INFORMATION- The following information shall appear in an > > electronic mail message under paragraph (1): > > (A) The term `advertisement'. > > ----- > > > > So they mention this bill and make it look legit, but they're not actually > > in compliance because they don't start the subject with "advertisement". > > > > I'm also curious about this bit of spam... It gives all this info despite > > being spam. Isn't it a bit strange? I was getting the idea that maybe this > > "vetring" group was being set up by someone. Perhaps the -questions or > > freebsd.org admin should check up on this one. > > > > At 09:21 PM 12/9/98 , Vietnam Veteran"@vetring.com wrote: > > > > > >This message is sent in compliance of the new e-mail > > >Legislation: `Unsolicited Commercial Electronic Mail > > >Choice Act of 1997' (Introduced in the Senate) > > >http://www.epic.org/privacy/bill_track.html > > > > > >Sender : Veterans Ring of Honor, > > >P.O. Box 87171, San Diego, CA 92138 > > >Phone : 1-800-Vet-Ring > > >E-mail : vetring@vetring.com > > > > > >Although this is a one time request and you will not be > > >contacted again by VROH, the following statement must > > >be included: To be removed from our mailing list, > > >simply reply with "REMOVE" in the subject section. > > > > > >Please consider adding the Veterans Ring of Honor Web > > >Site to your Links Section: http://www.vetring.com > > > > > >The Veterans Ring of Honor is a "one of a kind" > > blah blah blah... > > > > --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) > > ICQ UIN: 692441 ( ludwigp@email.com ) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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