Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: raymond hicks <diesel@bsdvault.net> To: ian j hart <ianjhart@ntlworld.com> Cc: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010803153442.Q40305-100000@logicalhost.com> In-Reply-To: <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com>
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Here is 2 more cents for the pot... Why not call it what it is.. It is the "CURRENT" branch of that release. uname -a already gives you the date built. So perhaps you run into persons confusing the 2 CURRENT branches... but then you have the RELEASE tag to specify a difference. Complicated.. I think no. side note: My apologies for traffic related to troll posting on bsvault. No intent to cause problems... lates raymond hicks On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, ian j hart wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > ian j hart wrote: > > >> Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was > > >> that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind > > >> of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the > > >> release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, > > >> though. > > > When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you > > > know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or > > > the one without. (You need to check the date of course). > > > > If it says -FOO, how do you know which one it is? > > You don't. You know what it is NOT tho'. How does this help your > argument to leave it at -RELEASE? > > > > > The only thing changing the name eliminates is the unpatched case. > > Exactly. It's a clue stick. > > > > > > What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files > > > will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That > > > assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) > > > > The same way you do if you have a bunch of x00 4.3-FOO machines to > > secure. > > > > If you really want to test with telnet, you can set the login banner > > yourself. > > I was thinking of a console login. Most of my servers are in one room. > and luckily I don't have hundreds. In any case thay are all running > 4.3-RELEASE. That's 4.3-RELEASE with the security patches, not the > other 4.3-RELEASE. <bg> > > > > > <mike > > -- > > Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > ian j hart > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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