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Date:      Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:48:02 -0800
From:      Gordon Tetlow <gordont@gnf.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, David Yeske <dyeske@yahoo.com>, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: End-Of-Life announcement for M-Systems DiskOnChip driver("fla").
Message-ID:  <20030203224802.GM98559@roark.gnf.org>
In-Reply-To: <3E3EAF82.E0F19A11@mindspring.com>
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On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:05:54AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > David Yeske <dyeske@yahoo.com> writes:
> > > I still use this.  Users will not suddenly quit using hardware that
> > > works, they will start using a different OS that works with it, or
> > > they will be stuck trying to continue to support an old version of
> > > FreeBSD because it works with it.
> >=20
> > Read the announcement again.  FreeBSD 5.x will still have DoC support,
> > which means you have at least two years to grow tired of it before we
> > stop putting out 5.x releases.  By that time you will hopefully have
> > realised it is a dead-end technology and switched to something that
> > works.
>=20
>=20
> Why announce an intent to kill something that works?
>=20
> Do we just not "like" DoC, as a matter of public policy?

I think phk has a good explaination:

:The driver in the tree works with the M-systems devices I have to  =20
:test with, but M-Systems have neither sent me the necessary software
:updates nor hardware samples of the latest generation of the DoC
:and I have received no emails from people who were stuck because
:of this.
:
:Combine this with the fact that the DoC is a CPU-poll technology  =20
:where you busy-wait for the flash devices to do their thing, rather
:than get an interrupt when they are done, I think we can safely say
:that the DoC is well past its prime time.

-gordon

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